Texas Equitable
Friday, August 20, 2010 at 11:11AM "My bus runneth over."
I can almost picture a sign like that hanging on the wall of a particular attorney's office.
Princeton University's WordNet describes equitable as fair to all parties as dictated by reason and conscience; "equitable treatment of all citizens". Three important words jump out at us - fair, reason, and conscience. I have come to believe that, during the course of two years, Casey Anthony's defense has been anything but that. A recurring theme continues to cling to the backs of our minds; who else will the defense throw under the bus?
When Casey Anthony forced the hand of an extremely fair and equitable judge, that being the Honorable Stan Strickland, it was unconscionable. What we caught was a real life glimpse, a puzzling ponderance, into the stupefying notions of her defense and what they would be capable of doing to anything that stands in their way, past, present and future, if necessary. Trust me, I felt the wrath, but in the end, it was nothing personal because this team has no conscience. The age old idiom flares its nostrils and cries it's a dog eat dog world, only in real life, some people are mutts; wolves in fox's clothing. Yes, the first to fall, but not from grace, was the judge, who is regarded as one of Florida's finest. Next came Roy Kronk, whose alleged dalliances have nothing to do with this case. Why attack a man's integrity? Why would this defense foolishly infer that he was capable of murdering Caylee Anthony? When that idea fell through the cracks, the defense moved on. After all, the bottom line was that Roy had all the evidence he needed to prove he had nothing to do with the toddler's death. Of course, we cannot leave Richard and Jesse Grund behind. The heavy tire tracks are still indented in their reputations, unscathed prior to this debacle. They haven't had a chance to scrape themselves up from the defense road to virtual perdition.
Now, we're faced with Tim Miller and Texas EquuSearch. A fierce and dedicated fighter who sought nothing more than closure and justice for Caylee's death, he, too, has come under the tread of Jose Baez's and J. Cheney Mason's tragic bus. Prior to Mason's entry into this case, the defense claimed that Casey was in jail when the body of the little girl was tossed away for vermin to devour. Therefore, she couldn't have done it. Dr. John Schultz, Professor of Anthropology at the University of Florida, concluded that the body had been placed in the woods off Suburban Drive before or soon after June 17th. Some of the evidence he examined to make this determination included the amount of decay on the bones, the scatter patterns of those bones from animal disturbances, leaf growth through the bags and the remains, and positive indications she was in those woods during heavy summer rains because of muck deposits on bones.
Those are the facts. What the defense will try to prove is that there's no proof Casey placed the corpse there. They will also dispute the findings of Schultz and Dr. Jan Garavaglia, the Orange/Osceola Medical Examiner, who concurs. No one saw Casey do it, therefore, it could be anyone else, including a searcher.
One thing that has captured my mind is this obsession with TES records. I understand it's the defense's responsibility to dig deep into all possible clues; to search for the, sometimes, elusive thread of hope, but I smell a set-up. The bus is rolling and looking for new victims; new lives to destroy in its path. Although gone, Todd Macaluso confidently declared a year ago that the body was placed there while Casey was incarcerated. Mason switched gears and said that no one entered the woods when TES searched the area in September of 2008. He acknowledged the area was flooded. This was a major revelation except for one thing – he didn't state that it couldn't have been anyone else who, in fact, did look on their own time and off the documented records kept by Tim Miller's group, almost 4,000 strong. It still begs the question, if no one from TES searched there in September, why the incessant need to examine all those records? Because the body could have been tossed in November or December by a TES straggler. Scrutiny is the key element.
The tack this defense is taking is not unusual. It will rely on discrediting the state's evidence, which is predominantly circumstantial. Call it mucking. All the defense has to do is debunk whatever it can, and never mount a credible attack based on their client's innocence. That's why they never looked for Zenaida Gonzalez. She doesn't exist and never did. Why seek what isn't there? Casey will never take the stand and she will never seek a plea. Why should she?
In my opinion, Baez & Company will scour over those records. Openly, Baez said, “We just want to be as thorough as we possibly can.” Behind closed doors, it may be another matter. When Chief Judge Belvin Perry granted the defense full access to those records with the stipulation that they not be allowed to publicize any private information about the searchers, it was a victory of sorts. Why? Because 4,000 people will have their cans of worms opened and the skeletons in their closets will be scrutinized beyond reproach.
What will stop this team from stretching out their arms and pointing fingers at several searchers as possible suspects fully capable of murder? Why couldn't it have been someone else, a real “Zenaida” who stole the girl and joined the search in order to hide her? Holy mackerel! The mother lode! If a Zenaida Gonzalez exists, it will be one from TES. Under an assumed name, of course.
In the final quarter of 2008, I was not healthy enough to help search for the missing toddler. Today, I'm almost glad, because I would now be one of the many names the defense team could target. Oh well, they're going to be going after people with criminal records and disgruntled ex-spouses. In my case, it's immaterial. In life, I try to be fair. I know how to reason, and I have a conscience. Just like Tim Miller and all those searchers, who only wanted to help. From the defense, all I'm smelling are exhaust fumes because my bus already came and went. Tim's is on its way. That's not very equitable, is it?
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Reader Comments (161)
Great article, Dave. I feel sorry for those 4,000 searchers who are now going to have their private information in the hands of this defense team. They will try and throw anyone under the bus that they can. I can't help but feel this is going to change the way that people volunteer to search for missing people from now on. We can only hope that none of those 4,000 people have any kind of a criminal background.
Thanks for all you do, Dave, to keep us up to date.
Finally, I can get to a few comments. Fortunately, the judge was very clear about letting any names slip through the cracks. Also, the defense has to take any new names to the judge before anything can be officially done. Thank you for your support, Mary Jo.
Hello all and Happy Friday!
Well Dave you pretty much nailed this one. IMO had this only been about Casey no one would have helped, it has always been about Caylee. I for one cannot get past 31 days and all the lies. In Jose's quest to drive this bus in random directions he will run over T.E.S. but most normal people with any amount of common sense will see this for what it is. Jose lacking the knowledge of how to represent this liar. If my child were to go missing I would call Tim Miller before I would call Kid Finders and/or the Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation. He knows what he is doing, he cares about what he is doing and he is a good man. Tim became a target when he searched for Caylee as a deceased child. His knowledge led him in that direction and Casey's team needed "live" searches.
I find this defense team to be pathetic. They are lucky half of that chit won't come out at trial. First Jesse, then Amy maybe Ricardo, no wait a minute it has to be Roy. How hard is it to find Zanny? Should be interesting to see what will all make sense when it comes out at the trial.
It has always been about Caylee is right, Laurali. Just the thought of the total extremes involved in this case are mind boggling. On one end of the spectrum, we've got clairvoyants and dousers, and on the other, respectable people like Tim. How strange the direction the family chose to go. Thank you.
No wonder lawyers are so despised..
Reminds me of an old joke: Q: Whats black and brown and looks good on an attorney?
A: A Doberman
ARF! You bring out the animal in me.
Question? How could any of the searchers be involved when Caylee actually was last seen 15 June, not reported until 16 July, How could any volunteer be looked at, how would they have known a search would be called regarding Caylee? Tim Miller (TES) was called in by Cindy if I'm not mistaken, so how would any of these 4000 volunteers know that Caylee would be found, they didn't even know she was missing until 16 July when it was reported by LE. Bozo (Baez) really doesn't think straight, he'd have a better chance finding the make believe Zanny the Nanny. To all those volunteers out there, GREAT JOB, and if Bozo (Baez) tries to tear you thru the mud, I would sue him, I wish Roy Kronk would, he really has a good case and a good lawyer.
My guess would be that whoever the defense wants to think it may be will be in that list of searchers. Here's one way it could work in that regard. The person who took Caylee signed on as a searcher in order to get rid of the body unnoticed. Hey, it's not something I would believe in, but we're talking about Casey's defense. Anything is possible.
This is such a slap in the face to those good people who searched for Caylee in the 100 degree heat! Wow...unbelieveable as to what Casey's slimy defense will do in order to free their client!!
Unfortunately, sometimes that's the way it works. Look at OJ. He was innocent and so was Scott Peterson according to their attorneys and parents.
Another great post Dave. You really have nailed everything that has been going on with the Defense since day one. I feel so bad for the volunteers at TES. When Tim calls the next time a lost child needs to be found, how many volunteers will think twice before they do? Who will the Defense throw under the bus next? They have not thrown Caylee yet. They can say she ran away from home to get away from her dysfunctional family. Casey was out running all over the pace running out of gas, she could not have done anything.
Again Dave, great post. It was so quiet here yesterday and now lost of posts will appear and the new posters will come over to your new home.
Yes, it was quiet yesterday. Lately, I've had a lot to do, too, so it was almost a good thing. I don't think anyone will ever be able to sort this case out completely. It's taken so many twists and turns, with many more to come. Thanks, Peggy.
Dave~~another excellent write up but I expected no less. I am wondering if Baez et al are still trying to bring Joe Jordan and Laura Buchanan into the equation. I believe they are the only two searchers who claimed they searched the area where the remains were found and there was no body there. There are alot of loop holes in their accounts but it seemed that Baez went to alot of trouble trying to get Laura to say she searched with Joe.
I am inclined to think that the remains were put out in the woods around June 19/08 because of the smell of decomp that was in the vehicle. The love bugs that are native to Suburban in the months of June and July had embedded themselves deep in the some of the skeletel bones. Along with the vegetation that had grown in and around the remains definitely indicates that the body was put there in June.
If the defense is claiming that someone put the remains in the wood while Casey was incarcerated, where was the body stored in the meantime? It does not make any sense unless someone had the body in a freezer. You cannot just store a body that is in the process of decomposition just anywhere, even if it was sealed up in doubled garbage bags.
I will write more. I am going to do a second read. A word that stood out in your article was 'carcass'. I have never heard of a body that was fully decomposed referred to as a carcass rather than skeletel remains. At the time Caylee was put in the woods, it would have been remains.
Thank you, Snoopy. It kept me busy. If someone kept Caylee in the freezer, that might explain where the love bugs came from.
Dave, another greaat post! I am so glad that you also brought up the fact that Texas Equsearch is in dire need of funding. Tim's interview is very straight up and honest. Karma is a great thing and I am sure that any grief the Bozo team tries to put on any of the volunteers will come back and kick them in their asses!!
Thank you, Carole. There was no way I was going to ignore the fact that TES is hurting for money. The service they provide is priceless.
Dave you do think the defense will ever be able to see that the huge amount of circumstantial evidence will trump their puny defenses? Will they ever go to Casey and say, "look we've given it our best shot but we really do not have enough defense to counter with. The odds are stacked against you. Do you still want us to proceed with the weak counter attacks that we can make and hope for a miracle? If we move forward as we are you may very well get the death penalty. If you plea you will get something less'.
Yes, Patti O, the defense will absolutely see that the huge amount of circumstantial evidence will trump their puny defense. It's called the verdict. Actually, don't count them out. The judge handed them a small victory with those files. All of them. As for pleading, odds are better that she'll get off than betting on whether the judge would sentence her to death. A plea changes nothing and the state would squawk like crazy.
Something tells me after this long, the prosecution won't except a plea deal. I think Bozo knows it!
Tim is upset and has every right to be livid, he was used by Casey and her Mother from the beginning. I think George was tryng to help in the beginning, but somethng happened to change him. Tim is right, they know Casey did it and they are trying to cover it up and use any means of placing blame they can think of.
Does anyone know when Casey is found guilty if Tim can sue the Anthony's or Casey for the money back he invested in a search since it was actually a hoax from the beginning. I remember Tim said Casey ask him to help find her baby, so wouldn't it be fair for him to be able to sue for restitutuion on the grounds of false information? At the very least maybe he could get a judgment against the Anthony's for any possible money they make in the future regarding Caylee or Casey, the trial, a possible book, or anything else they can come up with to sell for gain. It doesn't seem fair for him to stuck holding the 100,000 dollar bag o' lies.
debwagstongue~~I cannot see that Tim Miller can ever recover any monies spent on the search for Caylee. The only monies TES receives is from donations. To my knowledge, there was no contract between Casey or the Anthonys and Equusearch for doing the search. TES would not be entitled to any income made for future books, movies etc.
Lately I've just been shaking my head everytime something comes out. This case has gone from being just another child abuse/murder case to a case of unrealistic proportions due mainly to Baez/the Anthonys continuously going on national tv about it. Realistically, if they weren't constantly under our noses on our tv sets all the brouhaha would have died down long ago because the only ones talking about it are the defense lawyers and the parents. You don't see Lee or the prosecution on every other month saying what amounts to nothing on national t.v. . I have a feeling it's being done intentionally to keep up the media attention so it can play in with the appeals process.
I like Tim Miller. He's running a reputable company dedicated to finding lost souls and I commend him on that. He lost a daughter himself to violence and the way he was treated by Cindy Anthony and the lawyers is unconcionable in my opinion. There is no reason whatsoever that any of his records should be made public. To even think one of those searchers hid Caylee's body is ludicrous due to storage and decomp problems. To think they came across the body and didn't mention it is ridiculous, and to say the area wasn't flooded when it was I imagine can either be proved or disproved by the same science that shows how long Caylee lay there.
I only hope the outcome of all this is a guilty verdict and Baez's loss of stature. I hope he gets reduced to ambulance chasing. His head seems to get bigger with every news conference. Sometimes it's like he's stringing it out to keep his hold on the nationwide media attention. I don't believe for one second that he doesn't have a future book deal in the makings.. the Anthonys too. Still shaking my head.
Great post Dave. I have donated to Tim Miller before & will continue to do so. This defense is grabbing at straws & eventually will implode. hopefully judge Perry will shut down these ridiculous motions asap.
Thank you, Southern Lace. Yes, some of the motions are strange, but they can file them. I would hope with the addition of a seasoned pro like Mason, the tsunami of motions would lead to calmer seas. We'll see, but not yet.
This gentleman summed up everything so far for me that I've been keeping inside re this family and this case: it is reassuring to realize that I'm not the only one who feels the way I do. I was able to pick up right away on the Puppetmaster's Direction of Ruse and Deceit back when it first broke...this guy was fantastic. How sickening for such an organization to be so debased by the Duhfense ... I also realize how powerful karma/fate is ... thanks for this terrific post, Dave. I wish all a great weekend.
How nice, Beth. Thank you, and I hope you have a great weekend, too, but first, yes! Tim Miller put things into a perfect perspective.
Hi Dave
This was a great and informative post as usual. I also liked Snoopysleuth's comments particularly well and agree with Debwagstongue about poor Tim and Equusearch. I really like looking at your blog as often as possible and reading the fair and insightful comments. Although I generally don't think that we should tar a whole group of people with the same brush, in the case of Casey's defense team I am willing to make an exception and thoroughly agree with Diana's joke.
I hope that you don't take what the defense said about you and Judge Strickland personally. What they said tells much more about them than about you. Which intelligent person would believe them or anything they would have to say about you, Roy Kronk, Jesse Grund, Judge Strickland or anyone else? Anyone on your site can tell you that there is no comparison between the defense's integrity or powers of argument and yours. When you think about comments the defense makes, my grandmother would have told you that you have to "consider the source." It is beneath your dignity to respond to absurdity.
Hello, Amber. You know, the defense cited one post I wrote, Casey Anthony Must Die, completely out of context. Had they read it, they would have realized it had nothing to do with her demise. It as actually the opposite. Oh well, you can't win them all, but I will say the judge and I have no problems with each other at all over what this defense did. Look where it got them. Anyway, thank you very much for enjoying the post and commenting.
Dave, as ALWAYS, awesome POST!!
But i disagree with the defense not continuing to look for a Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez and or there lack of persuit. If the Defense fails to prove the existance of ZG then their client will be viewed as deceitful and that will, potentially, sway the jury to the prosecution(and i am not trying to say that the rest of their duhfense is substantial but just taken one thing at a time) but to suggest that they try and determine if one of the 4000 searchers has a skeleton in the closet that is pretty sick but brilliant at the same time. If they were to use this tactic however (IMO) that too would be detramental to the case as the jurors would see an attack on volunteers and i would think, regardless of what state you are in, you dont start pointing fingers at someone trying to help!!
It does not surprise in the least bit that the defense is trying to cast reasonable doubt, hell its their job, but to throw everyone under the bus without causation seems to be pretty harsh. The accusations of molestation by the male influences in her family could that have been a ploy by the defense to add speculation to family members??? (but this doesnt make sense if that was the way they'd go cause that would not excuse KC and the explanation of why she murdered CMA) Maybe not but the direction the defense is going it woulnt be surprising. Could it be CA eluding to this??,this one is hard for me to believe even as i typed it cause that is just diabolical, but she did offer up her own brother as a possible suspect, actually DCasey did but that is only because CA gave him the notion.
And, as PattiO states, do you think there will come a time in which the defense throws their arms up and says "its time to settle otherwise you're gonna die?"
Hello, B-Man. Personally, there's a lot more that's going to sway the jury than whether ZG ever existed. She lied about everything and ZG was just a small part of it. The defense has already ceded that to the state. Sure, she's a liar, but as Cindy said, a liar does not a murderer make. I do think the defense will try to find people on that list who might have been capable of murder. All that does is tell the jury the police weren't as thorough as they should have been in their investigations. Of course, that's not true and I don't think the jury would buy it. It has everything to do with reasonable doubt and it wants to point out how inept OCSO and the rest have been all along. Personally, I don't think it will cut it in the least.
I don't think George would ever go along with a defense ploy like he's touched his daughter inappropriately. There's no way the defense and George get along like they're the best of friends. Remember, she only directly implicated her brother and didn't remember whether her father did anything or not.
Anyway, I'm getting tired. Thank you for the compliment on the post. That's appreciated. Oh, one more thing, this defense will not settle until they hear the words, case closed.
Connie, the only problem with Biaz even if he comes out of this looking more like a buffoon that he is now, is that he can write a book and make a lot of money. I would not read anything that he would write but there are actually people out there that do not know what all Biaz has done and would jump on that book like white on rice. As you said the Anthony's will probably write a book too, or should I say the Queen of the Anthony's. I doubt if George would have anything to do with it, but since he has little standing in that family, I am sure he will "go along" with whatever the Queen wants. As our Snoopy has always said, Cindy wanted Caylee alive, she was worth more money. When the trial is over, a deceased Caylee will make a lot of money too. They are a bunch of really sick people.
I have stated the following previously. The attorney/client privalege is still in effect after the attorney no longer represents his client.
Jose Baez cannot write about the Anthony case unless Casey signs a waiver releasing him from the attorney/client privalege while he was her attorney.
Snoopyslueth~ I guess it was wishful thinking on my part to think TES could recover some way, but it would be nice if they would have to pay the money back to TES , so they could use it to help a family who appreciates it and works with them instead of against them.
If all the money that has been spent thus far in this case were totaled up I am sure it would be horrifying to the taxpayers of Florida. I know our system of justice protects people until they are proved guilty by a court of law, but this is extreme to the point of insanity.
I am glad Judge Perry is on top of things, because I think he is very fair, but firm in his decisions. He also seems to be very accountable and aware of the taxpayers money that is spent.
If Casey is found guilty and given the Death penalty will the state have to pay for every appeal on that? I don't know much abou the law, but I think they will. Sad that Cindy and George will never have a life again, because of Casey and also their refusal to see Casey for what she is. She will bilk them from prison just as she did all her life. I wish they could make peace with it and tell Casey to come clean with what really happened to Caylee. If she would do this she would still have thier unconditional love, but at least they could find some peace and possibly understanding. The way it is now, they still have a shred of doubt, and will the rest of their lives unless Casey gives them some answers. Casey is true evil for allowing them to suffer like this.
I don't take sides with George and Cindy, but I do see their delimma, because it is their daughter and they have already lost their grand-daughter. Plus Caylee was only with them for 2+ short years of memories, and they have 20+ years memories of Casey when she was a decent person before she went off the deep end after having Caylee, so it would be really hard to forget those years and turn your back on your little girl as they remember her.
If Casey can't give them the peace they deserve then they need to find a way to cope with her refusal and move away from her and let her dwell on her past until she decides she needs them in her life on their terms which would be an honest relationship.
Casey knows she can work them, so she does and will continue to play them like a fiddle as long as they treat their little girl like an innocent princess.
Oh Snoopy, I forgot about that tiny little "client/attorney privilege". How far does that go BTW? Can the students that worked for Andrea Lyons write anything? They are not attorney's but perhaps they signed something. Oh I am sure books will be written by a lot of people.
Baez could make a deal with Casey to let him write a book in exchange for prison money in her account or maybe legal help in the future. It still doesn't mean he will release everything he knows. I coiuld see a deal worked out behind the scenes. Kind of like the letters written to Casey behind the scene. Cindy will convince them all she has to write a book for money for the princess in prison. They will all cash in.
Peggy~~Andrea Lyon's students would not have been privy to any attorney/client info. Judging by the way some of those motions were written up, I expect her students had a hand in them. Those motions have all been made public to us and we can all write a book if we so wish. Now that sounds like a good idea.
Dave ~ Very interesting post. Tim Miller has stated he will no longer come to Fl in the future. Who can blame him? I plan on sending a donation to TE today. After reading about the forensic evidence in your post it is clear to me that Casey Anthony put Caylee's body in the woods in June.
The manner in which the defense is handling this case is criminal. I followed the Scott Peterson case, He was convicted on much less evidence than they have in this case.
[Thanks, Rob. Tim said he spent $108,000 on this search alone. That's an incredible amount of money. I think it's great that you will be sending him money.
Although I've never come right out and point blank written that Casey is guilty, I know which way I lean, and for sure, the defense ain't cutting it in my opinion. You know, everyone talks about the smell in the trunk and the "junk" science the defense will do its best to debunk, but there's so much more evidence such as what I mentioned in the post. There is no way the defense can deny bugs and plant life that have clear cut life spans. Thanks.
"What the defense will try to prove is that there's no proof Casey placed the carcass there"
I apologize in advance, this is me just being picky and sensitive... could we change "carcass" to "remains"? This has been such a terrible case, and that word just slapped me in the face with the image of the poor little girl being thrown out...
BTW... I know I'll go into moderation :) Feel free to delete the comment if I'm just being oversensitive.
And I love the new digs!
[Sometimes, one has to be cold and graphic to get a point across. Carcass is a cold and ugly word, but so was the person who tossed Caylee into those woods like a bag of trash. It was meant to slap because what was done to that young girl was a heck of a lot more shocking than any word I can write. Thank you for your opinion, but the word remains. There is no way to put a pretty bow on what was in the trunk of Casey's car and in those woods. It's still very sad.]
Snoopy, have you thought about writing a book about this case? With Dave's journalistic abilities, since he has been writing about the case since day one too, I would think he could write an amazing book. Maybe you and Dave could co-author a book?
Dave~~the word carcass depicts bones without flesh. If the remains were put in the woods while flesh and tissue were still intact, it was not a carcass. Suggesting a carcass was thrown in the woods is saying the remains were totally skeletonized at the time they were placed there. That could bring us up to late August or into the beginning of September.
I stand to be corrected.
Dave: Thank you so much for this post. Not only is it beautifully written, but I also got to watch the video. For some reason, the original would open but not play.
So, thanks again for taking your time to do this.
Thanks, nan11. I really enjoy writing and I'm very happy you enjoy reading it. I'm glad you got to see the video this time, too.
Peggy~~the way Dave and I butt heads, I doubt if our relationship will still be on speaking terms by the time the trial has come and gone.. If he writes a book, I will be standing in line to buy an autographed copy.
Dave Very Good interpertation of the Defense team. One thing the Defense forgets they have confirmed in Court that CASEY was the ONLY ONE in control of that car and driving it. Her own lawyer Baez has stated this. No way will all the evidence out of the car be thrown out. Think of how much DNA would have been found and Death Band hairs if Cindy and George had not cleaned that car. This case will boil down to Forensics and Experts opinions... Dr Henry Lee for the Defense even FOUND more hair of the Female DNA of the Anthony's ... mmmm seems that would help the prosecution to me. Also Dr Lee's reputation is not what it was IMO. These other experts listed by the Defense are really unheard of... and think they will stick it out when they dont get paid? Judge Perry did right and allow the Defense access to the Equusearch records leaves no room for Appeal on this fact. IMO...
Thank you, Jeansee. I wouldn't discount the defense experts yet. Most of them are world renowned. Yes, they will stick it out because that is what they love to do. Plus, they can still bill the JAC for their work, it's just at the state rate, which could be up to $150/hour, I think. I agree the judge's decision quashes an appeal based on this one thing, but I'm very leery about the defense.
I will bet you good money Snoopy, that not only will you and Dave still be speaking when the trial starts you will both be working on the trial with fabulous posts on each of your blogs and putting input on them. A book between the both of you is not that much of a stretch.
I can and will hold all bets :D
I feel sorry for those searchers that will be drug into this whole mess...hope the Judge will make sure that they are not thrown under the bus...the defense team will stop at nothing to make sure the death penalty will never happen. Those people gave their time and energy to help find that sweet baby. No matter what the defense does, they will still have to explain Zanny the Nanny...that will not go away no matter how much mud they throw.
Great idea about the book *Peggy
How about a whole book on Blog titles about the case ( from *Dave) and the best responses published! Mostly *Snoopy :) . I would buy it.
Diana, I honestly believe that Dave will write that book. With all the information he has since July 16, 2008 until today, there is no reason for him not to. Maybe he has already started it for all we know. I just know I will buy a copy. As far as the responses go, except for Snoopy and few others that post here, they are very informative as well. Most of us just post what we think has happened and put our two cents in on what has happened. I would not think they would be worthy of a page in a book.
Great post, Dave, despite the use of carcass and not remains-I tend to lean toward Kay and Snoopy's reasons why the word is "wrong" from a reader's standpoint. I gotcha on why you used it, though.
I have a couple of questions-did Judge Perry change the ruling from only the searchers near the site where the remains were found to all of the searchers? And, why would the Anthonys have any right to see certain ones?
I know carcass is an unpleasant word, but so was Caylee's murder. It kind of hits home. I am sure Perry ruled the defense could look at the entire list. Why Conway had a right to see some of them, I do not know. No idea. If I ever find out, I will let you know.
Dave~~you were right,. 'carcass' can be a dead body so I stand corrected. I will not mention that word again as you are the 'pro',as a writer, and it was your choice.
Diana*~~ you always make me feel all warm and fuzzy. Thank you my friend.
Sherry~ ~ I may stand to be corrected again but I believe the defense was given access to the whole kitten kaboodle of those TES files. I still do not understand why NeJames allowed Conway to see those TES files. Brad was not part of the defense. I think both Mark and Brad overstepped their boundaries and we have not heard the last of this yet. Brad did not have to resign from the Anthonys as it is not written anywhere that he will definitely be called as a witness for the defense. He used this as an excuse to make his exit and, I for one, do not believe he was being totally honest.
Snoopy - Could you please post a link to where it describes love bugs with the remains. I'm not at all doubting your knowledge of the case but as a Fl native find that very interesting and don't remember it myself. Thank you for your help
great post once again. Seems like this saga will never end.. So hard to figure out what that duo is up to since it changes day to day. Thanks for translating a lot of it.
Bugs fix Caylee's death in CSI's eloquent report
Orlando Native, try this.
OrlandoNative~ ~ I was doing a google search for the love bugs embedded in the bones and ended up back here in my search. I rememer reading that bugs native to Suburban in June and July were present in some of the skeletel bones. I may have to wait for my super sleuth to come aboard and see if she has the info in some of her forensic files. I promise that I will get you an answer one way or the other.
I did notice in my search that the love bugs mate twice a year and are generally around in April and May and then again in the fall in the Florida area. I could be wrong and the bugs were not love bugs but I will let you know.
Well, I guess that is not what you wanted, sorry.
Casey Anthony's lawyers will be allowed to review and take notes on all Texas EquuSearch records created during the group's organized searches for her missing daughter in 2008, a judge ordered this week.
While Anthony's defense team can review the records, they cannot release the names of the searchers or any other information in the files to the public or the media, according to the order signed Thursday by Orange-Osceola Chief Judge Belvin Perry.
If Anthony's lawyers want any copies of the records, the documents will be tabbed and brought before the judge.
Casey's Attorney Given Access To TES Records
Hi Dave, I haven't read all the comments yet. But WHY, WHY, WHY did Judge Perry allow them access to all the records? Now that makes me mad. Of course they can't release them. BUT it won't stop them from ruining some of them perhaps in court.
Dave I am coming up as Mary Jo. but says I am logged in as shyloh. ODD
shyloh, I see your comment with your name attached to it.
Ok what I am seeing now. "shyloh, I see your comment with your name attached to it" But I didn't type that one haha. What am I doing wrong?
shyloh, I typed the comment that says "shyloh, I see your comment with your name attached to it". I see your name with the comments you are making.
Ok but I don't know who you are. Because it's coming up shyloh. Not your name. That is from my side of the computer haha. Now after I post this it will come up Mary Jo to me. So something is not right on my end I guess.
Thanks for the answer, Mary Jo and Snoopy. I agree, shyloh, I'm mad, too, that Judge Perry is allowing all of the records to be perused by the defense.
Shyloh, do you remember a tvw (teresa)from yourturntohelp's blog about Caylee? I think you used to post there...anyways, she gave a craigslist posting by a rape victim whose perp was being representyed by Baez. He had his goons harass her to the point she had to drop the case and move out of state.
I don't trust Baez or Cheney with the records.