Friday Happy Hour with the Bar
Saturday, December 11, 2010 at 12:02PM “I, quite frankly, don’t know why we’re here.”
- Jose Baez
When Judge Perry asked Jeff Ashton to hear his motion, the prosecutor stood and thanked the judge for accommodating him at such a late hour. Yes, a 5:oo pm hearing on a Friday afternoon is an unusual time, but the judge has made it clear on numerous occasions that he would have no trouble taking the bull by the horns if the two sides were to fall into any sort of quagmire. They did, and yesterday, those horns were tamed a bit. It took less than 20 minutes to render a rather terse and quite succinct decision that was pointed at both sides.
I understand why the state filed the MOTION FOR CLARIFICATION/TO COMPEL COMPLIANCE WITH ORDER FOR ADDITIONAL DISCOVERY. To read the back-and-forth between Ashton and Baez was, at times, comical, but upon further study, it became clear to me that the prosecutor was losing his temper. The defense, it seems, had offered a menu, but never served the meal.
There were two main points in the motion Ashton filed:
- In its ruling, in response to the State’s Motion to Compel Additional Discovery, the court ordered the defendant to provide, as to its listed expert witnesses, “the subject matter of what they will be testifying to.”
- In response to that order the State received an email at 10:47 this date [ Dec. 1] from defense counsel Jose Baez purporting to comply with the aforementioned order.
With the judge’s initial order, the state wanted more than what the defense offered up to that point. Ashton expected, at least, “a brief summary of what would have been contained in a report had one been prepared, not a recitation of facts easily gleaned from a quick Internet search.”
That’s true. Anyone could have searched the Internet. What the defense offered could easily be summed up by this simple and shallow sample:
Dr. Jane H. Bock (Botany: Reviewed Hall’s report and inspected the scene and will testify about BOTANY, PLEASE TELL ME YOU KNEW THIS) University of Colorado Ecology and Evolutionary Biology Dept. Boulder, Colorado 80309-0334
That’s not much of a report, but it is a brief summary if taken literally. Too brief, of course, so the judge dropped his hammer and ordered both sides to be more compliant.
“Since ya’ll can’t seem to agree and can’t seem to understand what I meant the last time. This is what I’m going to do… Where experts have not prepared reports of examinations or tests, both the state and the defense are required to provide the following:
the expert’s curriculum vitae, qualifications of experts,
the expert’s field of expertise or medical specialty,
a statement of the specific subjects upon which the expert will testify and offer opinions,
the substance of the facts to which the expert is expected to testify, and last but not least,
a summary of the expert’s opinion and grounds for each opinion …
All of this must be completed by 3:00 pm on December 23.”
Something tells me that the judge, out of the goodness of his heart, allowed both sides to vent. He could have issued an order from inside his chambers, but by calling a hearing on a Friday afternoon, as the courthouse prepared to shut down for the weekend, he fired a warning shot. There is no doubt in my mind that Ashton had every right to file the motion, but the timing of the hearing was a clear message that this judge won’t tolerate nitpicking from either side. If you feel the judge was pointing fingers at the defense in his ruling, you’d be wrong. Think about it. As with fighting children, a parent cannot single out one when they both are screaming at each other. In order to be fair, both children are warned because it takes two to fight. In his decision, the judge had to take into consideration the ramifications down the road. Would the defense team state prejudice as grounds for an appeal if Casey is ultimately convicted? The judge had to show balance. As poignant as he was, after the hearing was over, I asked Bill Sheaffer why the judge wasn’t more terse. Why didn’t he castigate the defense for not following through with his prior ruling? He responded by telling me that it’s not Judge Perry’s style. Yes, I had to agree, because even as succinct as the judge was, he offered wisdom over a lecture or a legal spanking. No doubt, he got his point across, loud and clear.
On another note, someone mentioned that Cindy was not wearing her wedding band. True, I saw it myself, but I don’t know what that is about, if anything at all. When she entered the courtroom with her friend, I immediately asked her if she wanted us to move. I was sitting next to Jacqueline Fell from CFNews13. She said, no, she would just slide over to the seats to our right. Her friend thanked me for standing to let them pass by me, as any gentleman would do. After the hearing was over, Cindy and the defense team did not want to talk to the media. Jeff Ashton offered this message: “Have a great weekend, everyone!”
As quickly as it started, it was over. After all, even judges enjoy their weekends.
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Reader Comments (49)
Dave, great post! I am not sure what to read into Cindy not wearing her wedding ring. Maybe it doesn't fit anymore, or maybe they have indeed seperated. When Judge Perry gave his ruling you could tell he was upset about them not working together. I think he told both sides, because it was the right thing to do, but I feel it was meant more for the defense because they haven't given anything to the State, where the State has given stuff to the defense. Baez and his whining needs to stop. You can tell he has been hanging around Casey because he even coined one of her phrases about what a huge waste this hearing was. I am sure as soon as the hearing was done that they hustled everyone out of there so they could close up for the day. Thanks for attending this hearing and letting us know about the things we aren't able to see or hear. You always make us feel like we are right in the court room. Could you tell if Casey acknowledged CIndy at all? Thanks again for the great post and all you do for us readers. It is appreciated.
Hi Dave,
Your write up of Friday's hearing was wonderful as usual. It is much more informative than watching the video replays on the internet.
Will Jeff Ashton's office have many expert summaries to prepare because of Judge Perry's new order or are his previous submissions to the defense in compliance?
Thank you for keeping us all informed of the happenings in the Casey case.
Amber from Maryland
Thank you, Mary Jo. I didn't see Casey look at her mother once, but I didn't stare at her, either, so I can't say. Judge Perry had to make his order fair to both sides, without singling one out, because that could show prejudice. This judge would never do that.
As for Cindy and her wedding band, I think it's, unfortunately, big news to some. Personally, I don't think it's really anyone's business, but news is news, and news like that sells.
Hi, Amber, - I think the summaries the state has turned over so far will be enough for the defense, although there may be more to turn over. I think the state is more thorough, too, because that was the basis for the motion. Why can't the defense do the same thing? I believe the state is used to a set of procedures it follows. The defense has no set of protocols, this defense, anyway, so the judge laid out his stringent guidelines. He shouldn't have had to do that. I also feel he was directing his edict at one side more than the other, but no way could he have come across that way.
Hey, thank you very much! I'm glad you got something out of my write-up.
Hi Dave, great post as usual..I watched it on WESH tv. Thanks for turning me on ot that..I could see things that you could not from your front row seat..Like Baez giving his S--t eating grin but at the same time you could tell he was hiding his true feelings and was not a happy camper..But for him to tell the court that the prosecution was wasting the court's time was hilarious to me.. Any time he can get his face in front of a camera is heaven to him..I feel strongly that Ashton is very tired of playing games with him and will do it again if he feels it's necessary. Sooner or later it's really going to hit the fan..When Judge Perry starts his little bouncing in his chair watch out. But he is being very careful in how he does it..And we all understand why.
Casey came across as being peturbed because she had more important things to do..Such as take a nap.
I am very pleased with the outcome, and while I think it was meant for the defense (b/c they have not yet produced anything), it was fair to apply it to both sides which I'm sure the State has no problem with,
It is unfortunate that the State had to file a motion to get what was already ordered. As far as Baez's comment that they could have picked up the phone and called... I thought the judge in the last hearing was clear he wanted information given by the defense in writing, I' am surprised that Baez wasn't reminded of this by the Judge.
He will continue to waste tax payers money by doing what he wants rather than what is orderered, I hope at some point he is held in comtempt!
Dave, were you able to hear any comments CA made to her friend during the hearing?
Hi Dave. It's been a while since I posted, but I do try to read your articles.
One thing I noticed and thought about while watching the hearing was Baez's comments that all Ashton had to do was pickup the phone and call him. What would that have accomplished? they were already discussing the issue via e-mail. My only assumption is Baez wants to reduce as little as possible to writing. But the learned jurist saw right through it. Now the response MUST be done in pleading form through the court, not e-mail. I think that was a direct shot across the bow, so to speak, to Baez.
Thanks for all the great writing and information! Hope you're feeling well!
Another great job Dave. Being a single full-time twinsdad your observation of discipline to both sides was spot on. I am Judge Perry everyday trying to keep the peace between my 8yr. old girls with the hope they both come to their senses and do things right whether one is the instigator and the other is doing their best to be good. LOL!
Interesting post re the hearing - thanks Dave. To my ears you left out one kinda important point - this ruling applies (If I heard his honor right) to those expert reports Not Yet Done. And we do know the SA has completed 75% of their expert reports, so I'm not really clear why you think this was directed at both the SA and the Defense. To me this was a huge Defense smackdown. You don't agree?
It appears that Cindy has put on alot of weight and it is quite noticeable. Her wedding ring may be at the jewellers getting resized. It is not a secret that George and Cindy have had a rocky relationship since long before June 15/08 so it is premature of us to speculate why Cindy is not wearing her wedding band. They seem to have weathered the storm this long and will, no doubt, sticks things out until after the trial.
I was pleased to see that Judge Perry was unbiased in his demands for things to be expedited in a more orderly fashion. The emails that went back and forth, especially the ones sent by Jose Baez to Jeff Ashton, came across as a childish banter and were very unprofessional. If Baez cannot interpret the courts rulings in a motion, why does he not seek the help of Cheney Mason?
Baez displayed his inexperience and lack of respect for the court when he went up to the podium and voiced, in his opinion, that he didn't really understand why they were all there and it was all a waste of time and money. Since the judge called the hearing, Baez was sending the wrong message to Judge Perry. I am not surprised that Perry did not reprimand Baez as he was there to get down to the business at hand and not deal with the ramblings of an inexperience attorney. However, I was taken aback that Judge Perry did not say, "was that a yes?" or "was that a no?" when Baez only nodded to a couple of questions, he was asked by Perry. It would be interesting to see how the court steno typed those nods into the transcripts.
Judge Perry, it seems has been pushed to the end of his rope. I think, in the future, we will see a more demanding judge and he will show both sides who rules that court while he is sitting on the bench.
I am glad that Jeff Ashton mentioned the blogger(s), yes, it was plural. It goes to show some people are paying attention to us. Please note I said, SOME. There are those who are of no consequence who will persist in thinking it is their civic duty to bash and ridicule good bloggers. Dave Knechel rates up there with the very best and with all of our support, their efforts will have been in vain. They can continue to waste their time or move on and be constructive instead of having an existence as empty shells.
Lastly, I am surprised that jail regulations would not insist that Casey cut her hair for sanitary, as well as safety precautions. Lice and other nasty little creatures have been known to infest jails. The safety issue can also come into play.
Dave, once again, I humbly thank you for being there for us. Uh huh, you are still numero uno.
Great post Dave Baez did talk to local media though after the hearing here is the link CFNews13 coverage with Jacqueline Fell
Ecossie ~~I cannot get your link to work when I copy it... I notice you have two http// 's and it is confusing. I will see if I can locate it on the internet and post the link.
Hi Dave. As usual, great post! I appreciate you attending the hearings and proving us with information that may not be reported.
Regarding Cindy not wearing a wedding band... I truly believe that she deliberately not wore it to court because people would notice and start talking about her. Cindy loves to bring attention to herself and recently her lawyer made a statement saying that her marriage to George was fine. This announcement came out of the blue, like anyones really gives a crap about the state of their marriage. We all know that Cindy wants to be the center of attention and that she is a media whore so the fact that she didn't have her ring on does not surprise me. Maybe she wants people to speculate about her marriage. Maybe she wants to be the topic of conversation with regard to this case. Cindy seems to have forgotten that this case is about justice for Caylee and it's not about her and her miserable life.
Take care!
Well, Dave, once again you've gotten me to see something from a different perspective. I really had no opinions about the hearing even after I watched it. I was glad Judge Perry was calling a hearing just because the snarky emails were more like kids squabbling than like adults working on a death penalty case. Baez was not death penalty qualified and it's at times like this that his lack of knowledge shows up. Oddly enough when I was reading the email correspondence I was hearing Cheney Mason's voice instead of Baez. It's more like something he would do - the old "don't give them an inch they might take a mile" way of thinking seems to be more him than Baez.
Judge Perry is turning out to be the best person to judge this case. He's showing absolutely no bias so far and had logical arguments for the rulings he's given. I can actually see him calling everyone in on Saturday now instead of it being just an empty promise.
Even though the ruling seemed to be fair to both sides, I can see Baez and company having more homework to do getting everything and turning it over to the other side. I don't know why they do things like this because in the end it just causes more work for everyone. I wonder if he was actually naive enough to believe Ashton would accept the Cliff Notes version when the judge asked for a book report.
I really don't care about Cindy's ring. During 22 years of marriage I changed mine 3 times mostly due to weight gain. To try to read into something like that is futile. It's between her and George.
Snoops I just posted it on the daily caylee ,Have a look see there if yoy want to veiw it He is whineing that the state is wasting tax payers money by haveing this hearing an all Ashton had to do was phone him .Or I will post it on yopur site in a momment
Cant reach your site Snoops says system error however as I said the link works fine on Caylee daily under ecossie possie.....
Ecossie, Wordpress is having issues today. I cannot get the pages to load. Hopefully, it is just traffic overflow and not a 'nasty' like the one my anti-virus had to put in quarantine last night. I picked it up just as I exited one of the blogs at Wordpress so had to do a full scan to catch the thing and isolate it.
If you are pretrial/preconviction does the state have the power to make a person cut their hair? Can't make men shave prior to conviction, maybe.
After conviction and upon entering prison then the prison does shave most mens heads. Looking for tattoos. I watch those jail shows on Friday night.
LOL, what a strange subject to interest me.
Snoopy, there are just some numbers missing at the end of Ecossie's link. Here it is:
CFNews13 coverage with Jacqueline Fell
Well I tried to put it in here without the html code but it is so long it truncates!
It reads
http://www.cfnews13.com/video?clip=http://static.cfnews13.com/newsvideo/cfn/1210CaseyHearing_121020
that last number should be 121020101047.flv
The photos of Cindy at Caylee Daily really make her look lost, and very vunerable. In spite of all of her lies, I couldn't help but feel some pity for her. One thing I know, a pathological liar will never be happy.
Casey entered with that phony red carpet smile of hers but she sure didn't look happy during or after. Her defense strategy didn't do as well as she had planned and IMO Ashton had to call her on it. I don't see that he had many options if he wants to get everything done that he needs to. Casey and her team would just keep practicing jr. high defiance. I do think Casey is calling the shots.
Cali Patti~~what you say makes sense. If Casey goes to prison, she will be ordered to get her tresses clipped. Her hair should be down past her bum by May. It will be interesting to see how she wears it at the trial. The mitigating specialists will see she looks very subdued and demure for her appearance in the courtroom.
Yesterday, when the camera panned directly on Casey's face, she almost looked like someone trying to fight off a panic attack. Normally, Casey hardly bats an eyelash but I did notice her movements were rather rapid. Ahhh, maybe I read her wrong. I sure would like to know what goes thru her mind when she sits in that courtroom. Maybe she has programmed herself to block out all the events that took place around June 15/16.
conniefl~~good for you! You had success with that link. I ended up getting 2 full page ads for anti-virus software when I typed out the one from Ecossie's comments.
Actually I didn't catch it either. I went through the News 13 website to find the video then came back here and compared the urls. Since it was the one Ecossie put up without a few numbers I just put it in html form. Then I thought you still might not be able to access it so I typed it in without the html code like Ecossie did. It was only after it was posted and I was double checking the links both by clicking and copy/pasting I noticed that the one without html was truncated. I had to use "edit post" to change a few things. Lessons learned. If it has the code this little box will accept it, but without the code it will truncate. Remind me of that when I forget next time ok? lol. Glad we got it straightened out. I wouldn't even have noticed if I hadn't been double checking myself.
Thanks for another up close and personal accounting of the hearing. Judge Perry did not want to be there, even looking out the window at one point. In spite of his definite annoyance, he handled it with lots of class and probably laughed all the way home At Baez stupified, speechless look. He had the order written up before he got there, determined to keep it short and sweet. Do you think Ashtons remark about the bloggers was a jab at Baez, reminding him that he ran off a good Judge. Was casey big old smile for Mason? I still can't understand her being that close to her mother and not acknowledge her in any way. Do you think that will ever change if and when she is found guilty. Thank you again, I still wish you could be a fly on the wall in her cell, ooooh the stories you could write.
I apologize in advance if this has already been said. I haven't had a chance to read all of the comments yet :)
I agree with your interpretation that the judges ruling was directed to both sides of the aisle; however, I felt it was interesting that he had both sides "tell" him the numbers. How many experts from the defense? How many experts with reports from state? I don't remember the exact numbers but it was obvious who would have the most homework.... JP didn't ask for one side to give anymore than the other, it's just those who had already shared would have less to do.......what a good indicator of who was wasting the courts time. I respect that he didn't scold them, he just discreetly had them admit their folly for themselves.
Hey, Dave! I'm a long time reader, first time poster. Great post, but I think that maybe you misinterpreted Perry's order just a tad. Yes, he was annoyed, and quite obviously so, with both sides, but the order is more of an imposition for the defense than for the prosecution because according to Ashton all of the expert witnesses, who will testify for the state in the capacity of an expert have already been deposed and authored reports. The only ones, who are listed as experts, do not generally have reports to file. There are a few field techs, who may testify, but the testimony will be more procedural in nature answering what they did and the chain of evidence than it will be expert testimony on scientific hypothesis and fact. When Perry asked when the defendant was arrested and then asked Baez when they started taking testimony in the case, it was brilliantly damning indictment of the lack of work done heretofore by the defense in the case. The juxtaposition of the state's efforts against to the defense's was truly cringe-worthy. It was also a reminder to both sides that the trial waits for no person in his courtroom and that he is in charge not them. Baez has almost an insurmountable amount of work to be done to get the reports Perry wants finished. Remember, Perry said that the only expert witnesses, who have to have all of this are the ones, who do not have a report, yet. All of the state's experts, who are slated to testify to the science have reports. Baez told Perry that none of their experts have witnesses have reports, which means that every single expert witness he is going to use will have to provide all of that before the 23rd -- that will be asking a lot of these experts right before the holidays. If they really do not have reports for them, then Baez and crew may just have royally $crewed themselves by being cutesy and uncooperative with Ashton.
Hi, Joy - I agree that the general consensus points at the defense, but the judge looked at it as bickering children; nitpicking a little. Therefore, he applied it across the board. Baez said 12 of the 20 state experts had furnished the defense with reports. Ashton denied that. Instead of the judge calling anyone a liar, he made the wisest choice. By imposing his ruling, it was fair to both sides. It's just a darn shame if one side has to work extra hard tidying things up, and that's precisely what's going to happen. Sitting in that courtroom, I sensed his impatience immediately. The closest he came to admonishing the defense was when he told Baez he had heard enough.
I agree with you. The defense had better get cracking. The judge said to get things done. If one side has less work to do, then so be it.
Hey! Thanks. Y'all come back now.
If you want to know which side the judge directed the corrections to.
Simply look at which side has more work to do after the hearing.
That would be the defense side.
The judge, cool as a cucumber never had to make that apparent
but
the end result DOES make it apparent.
Get to work Jose, quit baby fitting and stalling and submit your late homework.
Thank You Dave and I did enjoy your Dec. 11th video posted on Youtube.
Hi, Ruth, it is quite evident which side has its work cut out for them, but yes, the judge had to be fair and make his order work both ways. In my opinion, what Baez handed the state was just like Ashton said - something anyone could find out on the Internet, but the judge still couldn't point fingers.
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. You know, I have an aunt Ruth.
Hey Dave,
I must add a couple of things, first I appreciate your blog, second, I LOVE THE TITLE OF THIS!
"Friday Happy Hour With The Bar"
You clever devil you!
again, Thanks
Ruth
I watched it live, but not in the court room. You could definitely tell that Perry was annoyed with both sides. I think he was further piqued by Baez's claim that he didn't have expert witness testimony and Ashton's response that Baez was incorrect. Given Baez's history in this case (especially things like claiming he wasn't aware and hadn't been notified that his phone conversation with the inmate Robin Lunceford), this was a definite slap on the wrist for the defense team. Perry, however, is smarter than the average judge, and he couched it in such terms that the defense cannot claim he is baised against Baez and crew. I think Perry is an absolutely brilliant legal mind. Orders, like the one he made in court on Friday, are the reason why he is almost never overturned on appeal. It gives the appearance of being even handed, and it definitely applies to both the defense and the prosecution. Given, however, how much work the defense has to do, there is a good chance that they may have to come in and file for an extension. I noticed that Perry stopped just short of saying that if you don't have your stuff done by the 23rd, you can't use the witness. The 23rd will be very interesting indeed because given that many of the experts in this case are academics, they will be out on winter holiday starting in some cases on Monday. I doubt, however, that the defense witnesses have really talked to the defense about what they may or may not be testifying to. I believe Perry is aware of this based on what he's seen in court and what they've requested in funding. He knows that he's just given the defense a hell of an order to comply to, especially given the lack of work that's been done on the case by the defense so far (and this is where they really miss having someone like Kenney-Baden). My question is what will Perry do when the defense can't meet the deadline he's set. I wonder if he will disallow those experts or if Baez will get a reprieve. Ultimately, I don't really think that it's important because this case will in all likelihood plea out before it goes to trial.
And you know, Ruth, the lead-in story from the day before was "This won't be a Friday Happy Hour". Actually, the hearing was a very sobering experience. No hiccups from Judge Perry, but I did hear the defense belch a time or two.
You know, Joy, there is a delicate balance the judge must keep in mind and enforce at all times. I'm afraid, if he disallows any defense experts due to inefficiency, it might tilt the case and lean toward an appeal if Casey is convicted. Yes, Judge Perry's record is quite good, but so was Judge Strickland's. This defense would love to get off due to a technicality; that she, in fact, could not ever get a fair trial. Little mistakes are all it would take. So far, this judge hasn't slipped, but I know for sure what Cheney Mason is more than willing and fully capable of doing to a judge. So is this judge. As shrewd as Mason is, the judge is quite a few steps ahead of him.
Those defense belches were probably from that burning feeling churning in their guts after Perry got done with them. I don't know if there's antacid enough for that heartburn! LOL. I agree with you that Perry won't disallow their witnesses, at this point. I'm wondering what level of brinksmanship this is going to dissolve into on the 23rd, though. It's a game, and the question is, who's going to blink first.
I think the defense has got to comply. Either all of it or a huge chunk of it. The judge may offer a few days due to the holidays, but I doubt it. The pattern that I've seen so far is that the defense seems to need a sense of direction at times, and the judge is more than willing to help out. I think they'll get it all done because the defense has met prior deadlines - or at least got extended deadlines.
Dave Catchall
you are one clever man.
Keep it coming.
Jose has already pulled the "because of his hispanic origins" card. JP knows Jeff Ashton can take it. it just rolls off his back, IMO he KNOWS the state has a very good trail for what/when/how they've done (as much as Jose alludes to the state withholding he hasn't filed any thing for sanctions that he KNOWS would fail)
it will be interesting to see if he can get his color coded charts organized enough to comply with the 2 he's got to get done by tuesday and the remainder by the 23rd..submitted in WRITTEN form this time instead of his snarky noncompliant emails.
Dear Dave,
I liked your title Happy Hour at the Bar. etc. You always have a good title going. Enjoyed this article. I like Judge Perry---his being a fellow no nonsense Texas only without the BS like Mason. I like him because he looks like "oh boy here we go again!!!" Like he is kind of laughing at the defense although he is all professional too. But as a person and not as a judge laughing. As a professional, definitely not laughing as this is about Justice for a murdered child. Hope I am making sense here, that's how I see him.
As far as Casey looking at her mother, as the total sociopath she is I doubt if she ever really looked at her mother with sincerity before unless it got her something and then it was feigned.
Also Hope you and your family are well. I have a list at home of people I pray for everyday, so still believing for Stewart's continued recovery.
Dave - I just want to say THANK YOU for these wonderful posts on the Casey Anthony case. I'm in Indiana, far from Orlando, but I still enjoy following this case. I get my news from the TV (primarily Headline News) and what's reported on the internet. I am not exposed to Orlando coverage so much. Your reports really fill me in on the case at such a personal level that I cannot get elsewhere, particularly what happens in the courtroom. Your writing style is so informative and entertaining to read. I learn so much about the law and how it relates to this case from you. I really look forward to these posts and I really appreciate that you do this. You really should be a court reporter for a major newspaper. Hopefully one of them will recruit you and your amazing talent. I wish you all the best over the holidays and of course, going forward.
The judge has ordered Baez to give much more information than originally ordered, imo. Baez should have complied in the first place and he and his case would have been much better off. I guess he will never learn.
Thanks, Ruth. I'm a little late responding, but here I am. - Dave Catchall... I try to.
Cecelia - Someone, I'm pretty sure it was Snoopy, pointed out that it will be difficult to get everything in order by the 23rd because of the vacations and other times off work due to the holiday season.
Hi, Martha - It's been a busy day.
I do try to have catchy titles. When I worked for a newspaper in the late 70s, there was a person who wrote headings for the articles. I was always fascinated with that job and, as a creative sort, I know that catchy titles sell papers. It works in many other areas as well, such as advertising. Heck, if I can't sell myself, what good is it to write?
No doubt, Judge Perry is quite a gem. He's smart, shrewd, and you can't pull the wool over his eyes. More on that later, but yes, you made perfect sense.
Not only is Casey sociopathic, she's narcissistic. She only seems to care about herself and members of the opposite sex when they please her. By that, I don't mean sex.
Thank you for your prayers. That is so good of you. Stewart is cancer-free. Your prayers have helped, I'm sure.
Hello, Catladydi in Indiana! Sorry I'm so late returning your comment. Your words are very kind. I do enjoy writing and it's nice to know it shows sometimes. There are so many facets of this case that I wish I could cover, but I do try to write about the most important elements. Thank you for the vote of confidence. I appreciate you as much as you appreciate me, believe me. If you have any questions or ideas, please let me know. Going forward, I wish you all the best over the holidays, too.
Hi, Ohiogirl - Methinks this case is one giant learning experience for Jose. I should have more to say about that in the near future.
Dave, I am sorry, but I was logged in but when I posted apparently I had timed out, I think my post is hanging somewhere. Thanks.
Dave
have you seen that new video by WESHTV on youtube
i believe it was posted on monday
the title is
Tuesday Hearing Planned in Anthony case
in the video, weshtv reports a witness named
James MacIntire reports an alive Caylee Anthony
he says he saw her in a christmas pagent in Dec of last year
this was AFTER Caylee's remains were found.
James says she now goes by the name Caylee Gonzales
So who did they cremate?
What little girl that no one wlse reported missing was cound blocks from the Anthony home
tossed like garbage with a winnie the pooh blanket, with duct tape from the Anthony home
also dressed in a shirt "big touble comes in small packages" like Caylee was wearing the day she went "missing"
check this bs out
and how come Cheney is so quiet now and lets bozo run his mouth into trouble?
please write Dave