I Swear
Wednesday, December 1, 2010 at 10:43AM I have done my best to head to the courthouse early so I don’t have to rush once I arrive. Sometimes, going through security can be very time-consuming. Fortunately, Monday wasn’t all that bad. I never have to park in the parking garage, either, and that generally saves me $6-10 per hearing; not much, but in this tight economy, every bit helps. Because of where I park, I walk by the television trucks with their high microwave towers extending from the roofs. It’s interesting because they are filled with very expensive electronic equipment. On most days, that’s where the reporters put their well choreographed on air segments together. That in itself is a real talent. The trucks are all parked in an area designed for them, in front of the courthouse, in a nook off Orange Avenue.
I ran into Mike DeForest from WKMG, the CBS affiliate. I hadn’t seen much of him since the judge debacle, so it was nice to chat for a few minutes before I decided it was time to head up to the 23rd floor. He’s a good guy. Off to the side was Jacqueline Fell, from Central Florida News 13. She’s a very nice person and very approachable. She was the first one to interview me months ago. As I briefly chatted with her, I noticed Ann Finnell walking by herself. She had an almost lost look on her face, so I walked up to her. I promised I would say hello from her cousin, who comments occasionally on my blog. Last time, I didn’t remember her name. This time, I did. She was looking for the rest of her team and I couldn’t help her there, but she did ask what floor the hearing was on. I said it’s always on the top floor. I asked her if she wanted me to show her, but she said she’d wait and see if they showed up. We parted.
It was one of those days where the line that winds through the lobby to get to security wasn’t as jam-packed as usual, but it was moving rather slowly. About five minutes into it, Ann walked in and stood at the back of the line, where I was already halfway through. I beckoned her to join me. After all, she had important work to attend to. I lifted the rope attached to the stanchions and let her through. No one complained to me about letting her skip through the line, but I would have handled it. She went through security before me. I have to remove my belt every time I go through, so while I had to put it back on, she politely waited for me to finish. Besides, she wasn’t quite sure where to go since she was in the courthouse only once before, at least for this particular case. I thanked her and we walked toward the elevators. I was mostly making small talk about my trip to Jacksonville and the proton accelerator at Shands Hospital, where my best friend, Stewart, recently underwent treatment for prostate cancer. All in all, it was a delightful encounter and I must say she is a very nice and refined lady; every bit of what I thought she would be. When we got to the courtroom doors, they were locked. I peeked through the crack between the doors and saw that Jose Baez was already in there. We knocked on one of the doors and she was let in. As she entered, she thanked me for my help.
“You’re very welcome. See you in there.” Only lawyers were let in at that time.
I always feel comfortable around the media people, and in particular, Bob Kealing. He has been one of my strongest supporters as a blogger and he’s a very personable guy. Bob has authored three books and won three Emmys for his work. I’ve always admired him for his professional appearance and reporting and, no doubt, he did a great job on the Neal Haskell piece he put together during his trip to Indiana. After we took our seats, Casey entered and we could hear the now familiar clink-clank of ankle chains. Within a minute or two, Cheney Mason nodded and called Bob up for a brief, very hushed, chat. When he returned to his seat, I quietly asked him if he had a good story. Yup. The courtroom hushed as the judge entered at precisely 12:58. Dang, known for being prompt and on time, I was disappointed he was early. This is two times in a row. His track record was slipping, I thought.
The first order of the day was the motion the state filed to compel discovery. The judge made it clear that he had to leave by 1:40 because of a trial he was presiding over in Courtroom 19-Delta. That’s a familiar courtroom - the one Judge Strickland used and the one that changed my blogging life forever.
The motion addressed six key points:
- Any contracts or agreements, in any manner or form, setting for the scope of work or expected compensation.
- Any communications between expert and any member of the defense team, either past or present, or any member of their staff, or any one working on behalf of the Defendant.
- All records of bills submitted by or payments made to the expert.
- All records pertaining to payments for travel, meals or entertainment paid to or for the benefit of the expert or anyone traveling with the expert, by any member of the defense team, either past or present, or any member of their staff, or any one working on behalf of the Defendant.
- Any notes taken by the expert or for the expert during, or referencing their examination of any evidence in this case.
- Any photograph or video taken by the expert in connection with this case.
These were rather interesting demands because it encompassed a lot more than mere work product, which is privileged information, it also covered the entire time prior to Judge Strickland’s ruling on Casey’s indigence status. Personally, I thought the state was asking for more than the judge was willing to give, and as Jeff Ashton finished addressing his points, the judge made asked for a response from Mr. Baez.
“There is nothing that entitles the state to this.” He said there was no wining and dining going on, so there’s nothing like that to turn over. Besides, he said, he had no reports from his experts, which I found unusual. He said it was burdensome and it doubled the work for experts. Also, a lot of the work was done pro bono.
As Jose Baez, Judge Perry and discussed all six points, the judge asked Ashton a specific question that signaled, at least to me, that he did not fully agree with the motion.
“What in that rule or in what case authority does it signal the proposition for your request on 1, 2, 3 and 4?” It was then I realized the state was only going to get 5 and 6. The way he explained it to the prosecution was pure Perry style. If you want the information, you can get it through depositions and/or subpoenas, not through this motion. As much as the judge is perceived as a prosecutor’s judge, he is very fair to both sides of the courtroom aisle. 1, 2, 3, and 4 were denied without prejudice. The defense would have to turn over notes taken by the experts, and all videos and photographs. Incidentally, yesterday was the deadline for the defense to give the state their list of experts, but the judge did give them a two-week extension.
Time was drawing nigh for the judge to set sail for another courtroom, but he soldiered on. He asked about the defense’s outstanding motion on Roy Kronk. Baez said he may withdraw it until a later date; closer to trial. The judge reminded him, in no uncertain terms, that once the deadline for motions comes and goes, he will not hear them. He asked Baez if all the state’s witnesses had been deposed. Baez said yes. He told the state that all depositions of defense experts must be done by February 28. On that same date, all motions related to forensic evidence must be in. Any non-forensic related motions must be filed by December 31.
Ann Finnell finally had a chance to speak. It didn’t last long. Some may think Judge Perry cut her short as a, sort of, way of snapping at her, but I didn’t interpret it that way. I may be wrong, but the judge had no more time to hang around, and he told her he wasn’t going to be available the week leading up to Christmas, although a tentative date to hear her motion was discussed and the 20th and 21st were tossed about. December 20 was the agreed on date, at 1:30 PM. The week of Christmas. He also reminded her that attorneys for the media would object to her motion
Cheney Mason quickly stood up and told the court that the JAC is having issues over payment and he has a motion ready to file. Judge Perry said if it’s not resolved, he will gladly take care of it.
While we thought the hearing was over, it wasn’t. Jose asked for a sidebar. The judge complied and both camps stepped up to the bench. Whatever transpired, we weren’t privy to, of course, but it was very interesting to everyone when the judge raised his right hand and began to give some sort of oath to a young gentleman who was in the mix. It was also during this time that a legal assistant had Casey laughing. To be honest, I didn’t see it. Casey was directly in front of me, so I have no idea what it was all about.
Diana Tennis, Dominic Casey’s attorney, sat in the row in front of Bob, Jim Lichtenstein, Mike DeForest and myself, directly to the right of Cindy Anthony and her friend. She surmised that it was the swearing-in of a new attorney. Some balked at that suggestion, but she was right. While no one knew who he was, I approached him after the hearing ended. William Slabaugh told me it was awfully nice of the attorneys to permit Judge Belvin Perry, Jr. to swear him in as Orlando’s newest lawyer. It was an honor and a privilege. I congratulated him and wished him all the best. This is something he will forever remember, because a simple notary public could have done the same thing. I’m sure the judge enjoyed the moment tremendously, but back to the matter at hand…
The final thing the judge brought up was the reminder that the defense must give the state the list of new TES witnesses by January 31, so they can be deposed by March 30. With that, the hearing ended and I had my agenda in mind to find out who that new gentleman was. At the same time, I had something I wanted to say to Jose. Meanwhile, Cheney and Bob picked up their discussion where they left off. What Jose and I discussed was between us, but what appeared to be an embrace to some was far from that. Attorneys are used to talking up close and personal to keep inquisitive ears from eavesdropping.
When Jeff Ashton was walking out of the courtroom, I asked him if Judge Perry had addressed the John Huggins¹² case. Had he rendered a decision? If so, it passed me on by. No, he said and we walked to the elevators. Riding down to the first floor, he was asked about the decision on parts 1, 2, 3, and 4 of the motion. Would he refile? He said the judge did rule “without prejudice” on those key points and that leaves the door open.
As we left the courthouse, I thought to myself, the hearing didn’t get over until almost one o’clock. Oh me, oh my, Judge Perry was going to be late to his trial. Perhaps that’s why he asked for a deputy to approach the bench; to alert the deputies in 19-Delta.
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Reader Comments (51)
Dear Dave,
Thanks for being at the hearings for us. I enjoyed the article. Also, my prayers to your friend Stewart. Please let us know how he is doing.
Your friend always,
Martha
Thank you, Martha. How nice of you to mention Stewart. He is cancer free and I will let him know he is in your prayers. What a wonderful person you are.
Your friend always, too,
Dave
Dave, great post! It was very nice of you to let Ann Finnell get in line with you and not have to wait at the end. I am sure that she was very appreciative of you for doing that. It was also nice of her to wait for you so that you could walk up together. I hope that Stewart is doing okay after his prostrate cancer. I am sure that Bob Kealing couldn't wait unti the hearing was over so that he could get the scoop from Cheney Mason. I didn't think that the Prosecution was going to get everything in their motion. I thought that they would get what JP gave them. It is so nice to have you attend these hearings because we can't always hear very well what is being said. For example, I didn't hear when JP said he had to be some place else at 1:40 P.M. I heard him talk about December 20th and 21st and that the media would object to her motion. Do you think the side bar was just for the swearing in of this new attorney, or do you think they talked about other things and then swore him in? I am glad you were introduced to him and congratulated him. These are the things that we miss and don't get to see on TV. I am glad that things are goood between you and Jose and that you both felt comfortable talking to each other. I can understand why attorneys are up close when talking because you never do know who is trying to listen and who may construe things differently or say things on purpose that was never said or done. Jeff Ashton also seems like a very approachable guy. Again, thanks for a great post and for being our eyes and ears for the things we are not able to see in the court room. It is very much appreciated.
Nice work Dave!
Thank you, Mary Jo - Yes, it was nice chatting with Ann and getting to know what a friendly demeanor she has. She was very approachable. Bob actually went with Cheney & Co. to where they ate lunch and parked their cars. I didn't think the state would get everything, either, and they didn't.
The sidebar was for something else and if I recall correctly now, I don't think William was called up right away. After the swearing in, the judge shook his hand and everyone there, including prosecutors, patted him on the back and shook his hand. It was nice to see that kind of comeraderie among opposing sides. Yes, ose and I are comfortable with each other. As a matter of fact, Jeff Ashton extended his hand and I had to switch my notebook from my right hand to my left to extend my hand. Yes, he's also an approachable fellow, and he seemed to be in a more upbeat mood that day, and it carried on inside the elevator, where I stood next to him. Overall, I had a very good day in the courthouse.
Dave,
Thank you for this latest post about the hearing you attended! I always look
forward to reading your articles afterward.
Sometimes it is difficult for some of us observing this case who think that Jose
needs to be put in his place by Judge Perry. However, His Honour is a genuine
professional and I have to believe that he knows what he is doing, and in the long run,
the defense won't get away with anything unethical. In other words, I think that he chooses his
points to pick at very carefully, so as to avoid the possibility of appeals later down the road.
As for Casey's demeanor, I say "Let her laugh now, for soon, she won't have anything at all to laugh about." There will be justice for Caylee. It is just a long road getting there.
Thank you again, and nice to see your website working so much better!
Thanks for the report Dave seems like Finnel is out in the cold with Caseys boys.Were you being ironic with your comment Baez said there was no wining an dineing or did you mean wineing an dinning Or being Baez more apt whineing an dinning. I realise me pointing out typos is a severe case of pot calling kettle black but Im trying to beat Snoops to it..
Thank you, twinsdad, that's rightly fine of you. Much obliged.
Oh, Suzanna, thank you. I hope I met or exceeded your expectations. Yes, most of the time Judge Perry puts the defense in its place, but this time, he gave did the same to the state by only giving them 1/3 of their request. Yes, I agree the judge is very careful for many reasons, but mostly because that's his nature, whether it's to minimize appeals or because he fully understands the law. Both, I'm sure.
When Casey laughs in court, it doesn't help her cause one bit, not that it would change the public's view of her anyway. The defense, however, would be wise to limit her laughter in front of a jury come trial time.
Hey, ecossie possie, my pleasure. Actually, I am sure the defense is quite happy to have Ann Finnell on the team. She's quite experienced. Yup, there is a difference between whining and wining, and so far, I haven't noticed any wining. You beat Snoopy! Good for you. Thanks, my friend.
Oh my, what a wonderful day of reading. Thanks for the walk to the court house. I usually park away from where I am going also, I enjoy looking at what is around me.
My mom use to take me people watching. We would be waiting, I would become antsy like most young people and she would tell me to sit still, be quiet and tell her what I see. It took me time but finally I saw what she meant. So when you talk of the truck parking, I thank you.
In time I also began making entire stories up about a person from a few clues on or about them.
Have a merry day.
Ecossie~~ I would never dare point out any typos to Knechel unless he tried to write in Gaelic.
I was rather disappointed in the hearing where it seemed to be so rushed. As usual, I could not make out a word Cheney Mason said. I am glad that Dave let us know he said something about JAC and finances. So he is going to file another motion so I am assuming they want more money for something or other. Cheney just appears to be a fixture gathering dust so it was good to see him at least stand and make his presense known.
I was suprised that Ashton got two out of the six requests he made. I never did believe he would get anything pert to the finances of the experts, their hours and how much they were paid and for what. I think that is the JAC's department.
I thought that Judge Perry was being short with Ann Finnell. I realize that Judge Perry had another trial to attend and time was of the essense, but I found him rather curt with Finnell. I also noticed this in the previous hearing too. I think she should have been treated with a little more courtesy in both those hearings. That is how it came across to me. Ann's witnesses and any relevant info re the penalty phase will be kept under seal for the time being but I doubt if Judge Perry will rule in favor of this motion due to the Sunshine Law. I think the lawyer for the media will put up a stiff argument and say the public has a right to have access to this information.
So will Baez and Mason see if they can create enough reasonable doubt with all these so-called TES searchers? This will determine if they intend to put Kronk on the hot seat again. JMO, but I think this would be a grave mistake on the part of the defense. One just has to listen to Jill Kerley's interview along with the other Sparks ex and the ridiculous duct tape fetish of Kronk's to see how inane this all is
If Baez wants this info introduced as evidence, he best get his act in gear, otherwise Judge Perry will let it fly out the window. Deadlines are deadlines and he is going to see they are met. Actually, Perry is becoming a bit lenient in granting extensions.
Dave, it was nice to know that you were getting up close and personal with members of the media and court. Are you sure that you didn't hug Baez? I know a reporter will go all out to get a story even if it is to find out the brand of someone's after shave. I can well imagine what you and Baez may have discussed and that will remain your secret but be prepared for me to nag you until I find out.
Thanks for putting up this post. You did a great job covering the highlights and what we, the stay at home armchair detectives, could not see and hear. You never let us down and we appreciate all your effort. Yup- no change here. You remain Numero Uno. .
Just one more observation that occured at the hearing. Casey, who more or less sits staring straight ahead stone faced managed to feign a few smiles. She is well aware that she has to play to the cameras that constantly focus on her. I did not read anything of importance into this. She must be going stir crazy locked up 23 out of 24 hrs each day. What I did notice is that she had the opportuntiy to turn around and flash her mother a nice warm smile. She did not and it spoke volumes.
My comments still go into moderation, which is ok. I think I signed up for access so many times that I confused the situation w/same email.
Dave for me you still give the bestest' account of what happens in court. I thank you for your sharing with me of what you see.
Dave, Each time you attend and post, it is like we walk with you and live the experience as it is. I missed a lot of what was said by the attorneys, my computer must be too slow and the videos stop and start every few seconds, so I am very appreciative of your coverage of the details during the hearing. What judge Strickland complimented you on as a fair observer and blogger still lingers and that hasn't changed. You have always appeared in court as a humble, gracious and appreciative of the opportunity you have to be there. You are a gentleman Dave Knechel, and in this hasty world of today it is very much needed. You have a purpose for being at these hearings which is always respectful of our courts and our laws added to the love and compassion you feel for the murder of little Caylee Marie Anthony. I wonder what it is like sitting among a family in such a situation, how my feelings would be so divided for Caylee, for Casey, for Cindy and George, Caylee's Grandma and Grandpa. knowing they all are of the same genes. They did not start their lives to end up in such a place or want any of this to happen. Sometimes it appears like a circus but for some reason I also sometimes think I might try to give them all a hug. Is that wrong, would that be neglectful of Caylee? This baby, being in heaven must be the most forgiving of all yet she is the victim. Good thing I am not ever going to be that near, I'll just walk with you in your posts here on your blog. Thank you
Dave, I was glad to see you at the hearing. Thank you, informing everyone on what was said. I can never understand one word of what Mason has to say. Ann Finnell seems like a very decent person. Does she really have 50 witnesses for the penalty phase of the trial? As for Casey's laughing and silliness, it shows a total lack of concern for her dead child. Hopefully, her attorney's will teach her how to behave at trial. It also says a great deal about character, when she does not even acknowledge the presence of her own mother.
Dave dont get time to read all of your articles... But this one was very well written and informative. Nice to have a report from someone who was physically in there.. How in the world have you been able to get in every time? Glad you are.. Cannot wait to read your observations from trial time.. Thanks again and Well Done Sir.
Baez Wants Reimbursement For Experts' Travel
Casey Anthony Defense Attorney Files Request In New Motion
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Casey Anthony defense attorney Jose Baez says his team's experts should be reimbursed for their prior travel expenses.
In a new motion, Baez asks to be paid back for the travel costs of five experts who came to Orlando in July to review evidence in the case.
Baez argues that Judge Belvin Perry agreed in October to pay such costs within strict state guidelines for travel expended.
Anthony was declared indigent in March. A state commission now doles out funding for her defense, at taxpayers' expense.
The new motion does not specify how much money Baez is asking for.
Baez Wants Reimbursement For Experts Travel
Thank you Dave -
You always seem to be able to describe the atmosphere of the courtroom as if we were there, and not not as though we were feeling it second hand.
As a cancer vixen, I wish your friend well, and many years of being a cancer warrior (survivor does not fully describe us, warriors and vixens win, survivor seems to passive).
I still think that the defense needs more than some undocumented searchers to create reasonable doubt.
They have yet to provide really important information regarding the last hours in which Casey had a live Caylee.
Good Mommies don't have their child one minute and then six months later find them decomposed in a swamp. There is a six month lapse of information missing.
If I were a juror, until I had that information, I would be left without a doubt.
My children are 27, 28, and 31, Married with families of their own, live in 3 different states, and I still know where they are, and speak to them and my grandchildren every night. We skype, and I see that my grandchildren are happy and healthy. Lord forbid I should see a mark one one of those babies on any video.
My kids or not, I'd have a place for those babies. (guess that's why I have a 4 bedroom house for only my husband and myself.)
Again thank you for your articles, and fond regards to the cancer warrior.
K
Dave~~ I noticed the copyright material that was stolen from your blog has been removed from that other blog. The named used was 'Live' and was the one who stole it It always pays to check out the copyright rules before attempting to remove things without permission.
Mary Jo, thanks for that link. I will check it out now.
Snoopy, you are welcome.
I must be in the minority but I had no problem hearing C Mason.He was complaining that the service they use for copying documents wouldnt do it for J A C rates .J Perry asked him if they had agreed beforehand to do it for the standard rate J A C pay C Mason said they had but changed there mind when given documents to copy saying they didnt realise the rate was so low.J Perry told him he shouldve got a signed contract with them....
Ecossie~~I knew you were amazing. How did you hear him all the way to the UK? I'll betcha you can speak and understand cockney. I am not kidding, Mason's words come across as all garbled to me. It is as if he is chewing his mustach and trying to form the words. I think it is the microphone placement. I can always hear Judge Perry way better than Baez or Ashton. I watch the hearing on WFTV.
Hopefully Ann Finnell can keep Jose on track, some. It's pretty clear Judge perry has about had it with the malarkey all around. Doesn't the Baez law firm have Quicken? Honestly...
I have a hard time understand Mason too. I was able to pick up the part about someone not wanting to do it for the JAC rate, but I couldn't understand who he was talking about.
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Dave,
As always, kudos to you for your insightful reporting of this. When I watch these proceedings on t.v. and I can see you sitting there I know that I will not miss a single thing.
I now have a rather stupid question for you.....but that won't stop me from asking......since you trade pleasantries with Baez and crew as well as Ashton and crew, I was surprised to hear that Baez would speak to you willingly. I am sure he knows who you are as well as reads your blog, so, he must view you in a positive light?? Or he must see that you are fair?? Or honest?? Or have I not put enough orange juice in my screwdriver??
I don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone but Baez does not seem to be a very astute judge of characther, but then again, he is a lawyer, after all.
Dave,
I just sent you an email with a link to a real motion filed in a New York court. It is quite interesting and I think I can safely say that it is indeed Kosher!!
Thanks for another terrific article! Your descriptions "put your readers right in the courtroom." I'm a little surprised that you didn't have much to say about Cindy Anthony. I read somewhere that she had a ruffled mini skirt, and white stockings on. How old is she? lol If she hadn't told so many, many lies, I would feel sorry for her. I find it hard to do at this point. That, plus all the "blood money" she had made.
I think most people have lost interest in the current happenings, and that will not change until the actual trial starts. jmo
Casey appears to have settled in nicely being behind bars. IShe'll do just fine in prison too.imo
I can understand why Baez would want to stay on the good side of Dave. Dave is in a position to release the hounds and let us all call him Bozo. LOL Seriously, it is always best to be on the good side of an investigative/Journalist/reporter. A reporter carries alot of pretty weighty lead in his pencil. He can make 'em or break ' em in a single paragragh.
Snoopy,
You are absolutely right about Baez wanting to stay on the good side of someone with Dave's abilitly to release the hounds! I guess I did not give Baez credit for thinking that far ahead.
This blog is different than most of the others out there that spew hateful and unreliable information. If it is written in Dave's blog you can pretty well bet the farm that the story has substance and is not written just to inflame the public.
Thankfully I found this blog and can read it to get the straight story. Bless Dave!!
Carole~~you are so right and that is what keeps us hanging around. You can read fiction at alot of the blogs and it is just written to draw the masses. I would rather read facts and thank God, Dave sticks to the facts. I started out by posting at another blog before I found Dave. The name calling of the Anthonys and accusing them of things that were unspeakable. I could not handle it and left. Once I found Dave, I was hooked and there was no looking back. Every new post is such a treat. I know there are many who feel like I do.
How right you are Snoopy !
many thanks for this article, you always succeed to describe the atmosphere at the courtroom as we were there also.
You cannot imagine how it is significant from my place...Thank you
krgds Rita
I very much enjoyed your article Dave! I think what we are all waiting for is the moment when Casey and Cindy demonstrate some emotion or act in such a way that appears normal to the world. The fact that they behave so abnormally is what keeps us glued to the story.
I feel that we are finally seeing a light at the end of this tunnel. May will be here before we know it.
Dave,do you know if the trial will be televised? Do you think the court will be jam-packed inside for the trial? Is it possible for an ordinary person (like myself) to stroll in and get a seat? Who has been sitting on the Prosecution's side during the hearings? Anyone? (I know you sit where you can see well and take good notes).
Dave,
One thing that bothers me about these hearings is the fact that there seems to be no recognition from KC that her mother is sitting right behind her. I have played back the last hearing when KC was getting ready to leave the courtroom and it appears from what I saw that there was no acknowledgement of Cindy. It just seems strange that Cindy is not leaping over the barrier to give her "innocent" daughter a hug, or that KC would be wanting some physical contact with her mother. This just seems so odd for ordinary people to behave in this manner, but then we have to remember that this family never seems to behave in ways that could be described as ordinary.
I didn't notice her look over one time, either. She wasn't zonky at all, so that's not it. Very emotive for her, ear ears waggle all around when she clenches her jaw.
"her ears". I need a new keyboard, this one gets played with by the cats!
Attorneys In Casey Case Get Into Email Dispute
I think the defense is going to "throw Cindy, Geo. and Lee" under the bus during the trial. The sexual abuse from Geo. and Lee, and the extreme control issue with Cindy. jmo They don't have alot, and I think this is one of the few valid things they have, and will play it to the hilt. imo
Dave,
I am amazed after reading the emails that are slying back and forth between the SAO and the defense. The judge clearly ordered the defense to submit the "substance" as to what each of their expert witnesses were going to testify about. But, what they keep getting is a list of the witnesses and what their field is. And Baez keeps sending the same list back and forth with each renewed demand for the information.
Thankss Mary Jo for the link above.......I may have missed it if you had not posted it here today!
For some reason I just got the feeling the defense might or will make George seemingly look very bad during some point during trial next year. I actually really feel bad for him.
Wow! So glad to see you Dave in court. Dave you have helped me understand more and make me feel closer to it all, which is a good thing because I'm been obsessed with this case, and there must've been a very good reason why you were thrown into the mix, even though how you were dragged through the mudd so to speak.
I anticipate to read your blog each and every time. Thank you so much! And so glad you got to help Ms. Finnell.
A little late, cali patti, but I hope you have lots of merry days. Meanwhile, I will set up your account again and send you the information. I don't remember your password, so I'll give you a new one.
I know I have some comments to answer, but I'm just plum tired tonight. I'll be back tomorrow, for sure.
I for one will be very surprised to see those TES searchers listed as witnesses for the defense. I think they're blowing smoke so Perry will keep the money coming for their TES fishing expedition. The thought is if they say they have witnesses and need more money to explore them and voila they get more money too look for real ones.
Casey smiling was a bit odd to me. She was writing a note to the intern (or whatever they're called). The woman nodded then nodded towards the camera like an unspoken "smile" and Casey looked right at the camera and smiled. Then she nodded towards the side bar and they were smiling at what was going on near there. I got the impression she was smiling for someone when she looked at the camera. They were swearing in a new lawyer? That's an odd time to do that.
I have a feeling Casey never looks at Cindy because in her own twisted way she blames Cindy for her own actions. The feeling that she wouldn't be sitting in jail if Cindy had just kept her mouth shut and not called 911. I have a feeling it will be a long time before Cindy sees anything positive from her. But she's her daughter and you should be there for them whether they want you there or not.
Another GREAT article! Too bad the Flabby Scabbies can't do something constructive on occasion. They appear to be getting more juveanile and obsessive. I can't help but wonder how they were raised!
Gay Sir and Ringya Bella are getting "married"....haha They are desperate for attention! Any kind of attention,. So sick and pathetic.
I still find it hard to believe that the Anthonys are being so quiet! I think someone must have had a long talk with then. Also, the reality of the DP might be setting in.
Dave,
You have been so unusually quiet the past day and I am hoping that everything is o.k. with you, as well as with your parents and Stewart. I am sure that I am not the only one that is a bit worried about you.
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Dave I thought Baez had done some not so very smart shenanigans during the course of these hearings but he has reached some new lows IMO. You can tell there is animosity between Baez and Ashton, because Baez will get this eyebrow roll and smirk on his face each time Ashton has something to say or ask. He doesn't do it as bad with LDB.Mason is almost as bad toward Ashton. I Love it that the prosecution is always fully prepared. In my opinion he is flaunting this not only in prosecutions face but also in Judge Perrys face. Those e-mails act like a bully on the playground that dropped his cookie so he wants to pick a fight with someone. Will he ever realize that time is running out and he needs to do the best he can with what he has. He has mudded the water around him for a long time and he needs to realize that if he wants a future, the rules apply to him also.