...To Judge Perry's Court We Go
In the United States, this past week was one of giving thanks to God, ourselves, others, and/or all of the above, for our many bountiful blessings - no matter how bleak the economy has been and might be in the future. As Thanksgiving fades and sugar plum fairies begin their month-long magical dance, the week ahead may very well be a time for the state and defense to give thanks for what they are about to receive in the courtroom. Or not.
Three motions were filed between November 18 and the end of this past week; one by the state and two by the defense. In the final motion, Casey’s attorneys have seemingly abandoned their two-step strategy that Texas EquuSearch volunteers Laura Buchanan and Joe Jordan searched the precise spot where Caylee’s remains were discovered. It seems they tiptoed to a different tune in the company of detectives and prosecutors bearing gifts recently, most likely time away from home, if you get my drift. After being deposed by the state, Buchanan’s attorney, Bernard Cassidy said, “I believe she signed an affidavit that she searched the area where the body was found. Somebody may have suggested where the body was found, but she has never been to that area to see precisely where the body was.” Cough, cough. Ahem.
Brandon Sparks seems to have changed his story, too, about Roy Kronk, his one time stepfather’s alleged “prior bad acts.” In lieu of any familiar faces to turn to for help, the defense is asking the court for state money to hire an expert who specializes in bones and fossilized remains. If something new could be determined by another reputable forensic anthropologist/osteologist, it might help debunk the state’s expert. Do I think it will do any good? I don’t know, but this defense needs all the help it can get. Will Judge Perry grant this motion? I don’t see why not, but he will, more than likely, wait until he hears what the JAC has to say about it.
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The first motion filed on the 18th was from the state. Signed by Jeff Ashton, it’s a State Motion to Compel Evidence and it’s based on the Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure, 3.220 (d) and (f).
In a nutshell, the state wants to know where the taxpayers’ money went. It wants to review every contract and agreement the defense has made to date. This includes communications between the defense, its entire staff and all of its experts; any notes taken by or for the experts referencing their examination of evidence, and all photos and videos. The state is also asking for all records pertaining to meals, travel expenses, lodging and entertainment. It’s demanding a reckoning of every penny the defense has spent and, gasp, that’s a tough one.
As much as the state is asking, the motion made it clear that it doesn’t expect the judge to give away the farm. Privileged information is going to be involved, so it requests that the court examine many of the documents in camera - privately, in other words - with the defense, and to redact whatever it sees fit. Redaction means to go over everything with a fine-toothed comb in order to find things not suitable for the other side or the public. Of course, the state would love to know the defense’s strategy in order to launch a strong counterattack, but that’s not fair, nor is it proper, and both parties are aware of it. The state definitely has the upper hand on this one because it has flooded the defense with so much evidence, some important, some not, but because there’s so much of it, it’s overwhelming. Consequently, the defense has had to sort through a slew of documents in order to discern what the state will use at trial. This is a common strategy, and by filing this motion, the state has caught the defense relatively flat-footed. It will most likely have to fork over all sorts of information and that takes time and money away from defending a client. It’s a distraction, but a very legal ploy. WFTV reported that it had read 322 pages of financial documents on Thanksgiving day, so some of it is already public knowledge.
One of the key points of 3.220 (d) is that, “any tangible papers or objects that the defendant intends to use in the hearing or trial” needs to be turned over. What’s interesting is that the state does not have to turn over any internal notes; those made by investigators in the course of their work. I would assume the same would hold true for the defense, and any attorney worth their weight in salt would know how to distinguish between what is and what isn’t privileged, and would know how to hide documents accordingly. All legal; all fair.
From my discussions with judges throughout the years, not that I am in constant contact with any today, I have learned that they look at both sides fairly and without prejudice. However, being human, they can readily sense when someone is or is not capable of representing their respective clients. By this, I mean the defense as well as the state. I have yet to meet a judge who seldom complains about one side while picking apart the other. Everyone who faces a judge has his/her own personality, and being human and all, the judge will look at all motions and have personal thoughts on how they were filed and whether they make sense. What I am trying to say, in other words, is that no judge looks forward to a motion like this; not if the court has to sift through thousands of documents in order to discern what is to be passed over to the state and what is to be kept behind closed doors. Fortunately, circuit court judges generally have a battery of scholarly assistants at their disposal, but my guess is that it’s not something anyone looks forward to. Since Channel 9 had access to some of the documents, I would say the defense has turned over discovery prior to this motion. I think the most important part of the motion pertains to where the money is going, past and present; and the state of Florida has every right to know, down to the very last penny.
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The defense filed a very interesting motion on Tuesday, November 23. The Defendant’s Motion to Seal Penalty Phase Discovery Response also cites F.R.C.P. 3.220, but in this case, it’s (l) (1) it’s referring to - Protective Orders:
Motion to Restrict Disclosure of Matters. On a showing of good cause, the court shall at any time order that specified disclosures be restricted, deferred, or exempted from discovery, that certain matters not be inquired into, that the scope of the deposition be limited to certain matters, that a deposition be sealed and after being sealed be opened only by order of the court, or make such other order as is appropriate to protect a witness from harassment, unnecessary inconvenience, or invasion of privacy, including prohibiting the taking of a deposition. All material and information to which a party is entitled, however, must be disclosed in time to permit the party to make beneficial use of it.
What this motion requests is for every bit of penalty phase information it finds from here on out be sealed or exempted from future discovery, pursuant to Florida’s Rules of Criminal Procedure. Furthermore, it states that this case “has received an extreme degree of media attention not just in Orlando, Florida, but nationally.” Everyone reading this article is well aware of that fact, and if ever there was a truth to what the defense has said, this is indisputable. The motion specifically cites Florida Statute 90.202 (l), which states: Facts that are not subject to dispute because they are generally known within the territorial jurisdiction of the court.
The motion goes on to state that intense media scrutiny has resulted in the media and public conducting their own investigations aside from what law enforcement has done. I will be the first one to admit that this case has grown multiple arms, many that far outstretch the reach of sanity and truth. Specifically, Internet sites, including blogs and YouTube are fingered, but not one in particular. This is also the truth. Anyone who writes a blog has been guilty to some degree; some a lot more than others.
How many blogs have been guilty of mocking the people involved in this case? The defendant? The entire defense team? All of the defense witnesses? How many times have we read that anyone who works for the defense is a liar? The attorneys must be disbarred? There is a long list of public demands, most of which are quite illogical in the practical sense. Sure, I’m not one who should talk, but I’ve tried to be fair, and in this case, I can empathize with the defense.
“To date, witnesses in this case, especially defense witnesses, have already been subjected to intense media pressure and harassment by the media and the public at large. This has resulted in a chilling effect with some witnesses becoming reluctant to come forward with information for fear of harassment and stalking.”
Boy, oh boy, can I relate to that one. I’m not a witness for the defense, but I have been harassed and stalked since Judge Strickland stepped down. Relentlessly. And if the defense ever needed a witness who could testify to that fact, it would be me.
It’s interesting that the order requiring penalty phase witnesses to be listed is due on November 30, the day after the hearing, so this motion could be two-fold; the other being that the list is not forthcoming. After all, how much time has Ann Finnell, the author of the motion, had to gather up all penalty phase witnesses?
The motion asks that the disclosure of these witnesses from the media and the public be restricted until a penalty phase has been established. This, the defense argues, insures that Casey will receive a fair penalty phase if it becomes necessary. In any event, if the judge refuses to grant the defense’s request, the motion asks for an evidentiary hearing on the matter, and that’s one I doubt the judge will say no to.
Overall, it has been my observation that there are a bunch of weirdos out there in the public who have grown some of the most mutated arms I have ever witnessed in my entire life. One such arm that has absolutely no merit is the one boasted by several inane commenters at an otherwise respected site; the one that states “as fact” that Jose Baez, Cindy Anthony, Melissa Earnest and myself conspired to remove The Honorable Stan Strickland from the bench. That one is disgusting, it has absolutely no legs to stand on, and it’s based purely on hatred for me and the others named. Only the stupidest of idiots would believe such a thing. It’s precisely what the defense is talking about, and it’s why the motion stated that the “intense media scrutiny of this case has resulted in the media and the public conducting their own independent investigations in the facts of this case…” I can’t say it enough times. No, this has nothing to do with my fact seeking field trips to Walmart, a la James Thompson, or a video I shot of a person who has yet to be called by the state. In both respects, I was well within my rights and all I was seeking was the truth. If Casey cannot get a fair trial, it is because of trolls. We all know who they are and so does the defense. It’s the trolls who insist they are the only ones who know “the truth” and they say so at the expense of federal and state law enforcement officials, not to mention prosecutors, bunglers all, and certainly not professional enough to see the light.
God forbid that my name would ever be placed on the defense witness list, but believe me, I sure do relish the thought of being able to tell a judge the truth about all of the horrible lies pertaining to this case. If Casey’s defense team has ever filed a good motion, this one is it. Let’s see what the judge thinks.
Reader Comments (35)
The Intence Media scrutiny has mostly been the result of the Anthonys an Defences shenannigins.How many media apearances have LDB or J Ashton done? Who fought to stop the gag order the prosecution wanted?Cindy was ;like a cat on a hot tin roof at that hearing to discuss the gag orger.An George was elbowing her in the ribs to say something when he thought there gravy train may be derailed.She eventualy stuck her hand up like a schoolkid. ...
Dave, another great post! I hope that you will be attending Monday's hearing so that you will be our eyes and ears and let us know like always what exactly happens in the court room that we aren't able to see on TV. I can't wait to see how JP rules on the State's motion. I think they have a right to know where all the money is going to and exactly how much and where it was spent. I don't think that it has to be made public, but I think they should be able to know. Do you know if they get that information and they think it wasn't handled right, if they will be able to make that point known and what can happen? I am also anxious to see how JP is going to rule on both of the defense's motions. Do you know if there is a deadline as to when they have to have asked for an expert? I am positive that the defense is watching all of the blogs out there and will not hesitate to use any of them if they think that they could use it to help Casey. Some of the blogs don't realize that they could be the reason that she could go free or even get a mistrial. They are so worried about you, that they don't care what they say or do. Maybe some of them will wake up before this trial starts and realize that they are not helping the State in this case nor are they seeking or trying to get justice for Caylee. Thanks again for another great post, Dave.
I agree, ecossie possie, the defense and the Anthonys made themselves heard, but this time, the defense is concerned over the lies that have grown legs. A prime example is gracie34's ridiculous story about my involvement in a conspiracy to take down Judge Strickland. That's the kind of stuff that will ruin a case. It implies the lead attorney is involved in conspiracies to tear down the judicial system. I say let law enforcement keep tabs on it, not idiots like her and the other babbites.
Hi, Mary Jo - I don't think Judge Perry is going to rule right away on anything other than whether he will allow a bone expert, if that, even. The motions are ones he will probably want to ponder. If and when he does rule in favor of the state on the money issue, I don't know what sort of repercussions it could have. I guess it hinges on whether there were any improprieties.
Those trolls have no idea what harm they could bring to the trial if the defense can show what all is being spread. Imagine if Baez cites this stupid conspiracy theory involving me and the others. That could be grounds for a mistrial except for one important thing... no one in their right mind would believe i, especially coming from a sick and demented blog. Will any of them wake up? No, if anything, they will continue digging holes that will lead them straight to Hell, where they belong.
Thank you, Mary Jo. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
What cconcerns me most re blogging is if this goes to trial ....The dirty tricks the prosecution use referenceing blogs ect I can see them planting somone on the net pretending to be either a jurour or a relitive of a jurour pretending to comment on the case.Baez will then reference it an scream misstrial.
The jury is going to be sequestered, ecossie. That means no TV, no newspapers and no Internet. Once the jury is seated, it's a done deal.
I had hoped you'd address some of this- Well, you've produced something way more detailed and in more interesting directions than anything else I've seen on the subject, especially on the financial front. Good Luck, anyone trying to pin those numbers down- If Perry can't get Jose to take any of this numbers stuff seriously how will anybody, short of the Feds? Just that side of things alone- potentially ugly, ugly, ugly.
As for the Motion, and all these "inside" bits of info- The Defense still doesn't have a DEFENSE! They toss a card on the table and it's a three of spades. They toss another and it's a two of hearts.
Does this deck have Jokers, Karen? I really don't know what kind of records the Baez Law Firm keeps, but I think we are about to find out soon enough. I think the judge will rule in favor of the state, with some reservations.
Time for bed.
WHY do they need a bone expert arent the bones now ash?I know the jury wont be allowed acsess to internet,But that doesnt stop a ringer pretending to be a jury member spouting of on the net ....
Nitey-nite. But as for records it better be more substantial than doodles on cocktail napkins I'm beginning to visualize...
Another enlightening article Dave. You sure save all of us a lot of headaches looking up all of these motions and you explain them so nicely.Thank you so much. The way I see it the defense is still searching for a way to defend her and time is quickly running out. Baez has had plenty of time to use TES, and can't find a way , he needs to move on. I want him to do a good job so there can be no grounds for an appeal. I have two questions, I read smewhere that Casey would not have to be present for her civil trial, is that true? Why? I would think she would want to try to defend herself. #2 Do you know why the Grunds depositions were canceled? Thanks in advance. Dave you have perfected your interviewing and your recording skills so much and you now have the title of Journalist, could you after this trial is all over and done with do a special interview and post it with Judge Strickland? You could do one without discussing the trial but you could finally put to rest those people who insist tha they don,t have a life outside of triying to make yours miserable.Would that be possible or would it be wrong for a Judge to do? See you on TV tomorrow, I hope.
Dave~ ~ there is alot of intricate detail in your post. Thank God for your expertise in explaining it in a layperson's language. To tell you the truth, these three motions have me baffled as to what the outcome will be when Judge Perry hears them. I suppose I can take a few uneducated guesses eh?
First off, I don't think the state will get everything they are asking for, even if it is in camera. In order for the defense to pass over all that discovery, it will slow them down in trying to meet some of the deadlines that Judge Perry is insistent on them meeting. I am not sure about the Baez' Law Firm's record keeping but to hand over every little scrap of paper, so to speak, is a bit much. I think that Judge Perry will put the kabosh on most of the state's motion, if not all of it. I think it is up to the JAC to keep the reins on the spending, invoicing, hours alloted etc and provide the public with a financial statement at the end of their fiscal. Judge Perry may tell Ashton that HE is the one on a fishing expedition this time around.
Now comes the defense motion to seal the witness list and all discovery pertaining to the penalty phase. I think The Sunshine Law will overrule and the motion will be denied. Judge Perry will instruct Baez that if any of his witnesses are being harassed, to bring it to Perry's attention and they will be dealt with.
Comes the motion for the expert for bones and fossil. I am not sure about this one. It is kind of late in the game to bring someone in. Linda Kenny Baden must have documented all her findings so there is a possibility Judge Perry will see if they can find a local expert in the bones and fossil field. I don't know if JAC has any money left in the kttty for this kind of expert. Linda was working pro bono and to tell you the truth, I have no idea who was handling the bug evidence besides her. I lost track of some of the experts and what they deal with.
As far as the media, bloggers and commenters go... God forbid a mistrial could occur because of one of those outlets but it could happen, trust me.
Thanks Dave for all you do for us and for all the help you give me behind the scenes. Geez, I may start calling you Professor Knechel. That has a nice ring to it doesn't it? Goodnight, you're the best, no two ways about it.
Dave~~I made a little faux pas in my comment. Since Ann Finnell will probably argue the motion re sealing all info pert to the penalty phase, Judge Perry will be instructing her and not Baez. I just hope that when Finnell goes to the podium, Baez and Mason will stay seated and not confuse things this time around. The last time Ann tried to discuss her budget motion with Judge Perry, I honestly felt sorry for her. Mason and Baez inserted themselves in Ms Finnell's time and it made for alot of confusion.
One other thing I would like to mention here, you went to Walmart to video automatic doors. You did not interrogate or harass anyone. Had that been the case, James Thompson would not have come to your blog OF HIS OWN FREE WILL and commented to us and answered our questions. You should be commended for proving Mr Thompson's stories to be far fetched.
There are some people who cannot see beyond the end of their noses long enough to use a bit of logic.
Judge Strickland called you up to the bench. You DID NOT run up to the bench and give him a hug. I know the defense said that the judge was COURTING you. LOL You being blamed is so darn ridiculous, it is laughable. I think it is time to end this nonsense about conspiracies before it gets out of hand and becomes fodder for the defense.
Did I mention that Ecossie and I had lunch with Phillip and Liz at the Waffle House in Piciadilly Circle last week? Ecossie told off color jokes, Phil laughed , Liz didn't and I skipped dessert.
Cheerio pip pip and all that rot matey!!
Very informative and food-for-thought article Dave. Thank you.
I have no sympathy for Casey Anthony but Jose Baez has had to play the hand he's been dealt. A more experienced defense attorney possibly would have put the brakes on all the media interviews granted (for a fee?) by Cindy & George, or done what their own attorneys have done, found a way to withdraw from the case. That being said, what would a reputable attorney do if their client was a Casey Anthony-type with a Cindy & George for parents?
I wonder what he would do differently if he could get a do-over.
As for your very own stalker Dave, the best revenge is to live well. It seems as if you are doing just that. That should keep her head spinning for a good long time.
Dave, The defense and the Anthony's have made this case a media circus. I don't think the blogs will matter one bit at trial. At this point in the game, most people have no interest in the Casey Anthony case. I am sure that will all change when May rolls around. Many of us who follow the blogs have followed other high profile cases, and would rather follow true crime cases than read any novel or book of fiction. But, even those of us who enjoy true crime stories are a little weary of this case. It is getting to be like the movie "Ground Hog Day". The day when there will be justice for Caylee is fast approaching. Thank you, for all your research, I enjoy reading your point of view, which always makes things clearer for me.
Dave,
Very good post! I haven't been able to get on the site until today, but I am excited I finally could! I agree with Rob that the Anthonys have contributed to the whole media circus with their continous lies and coverups that they feel the need to broadcast on television. And Jose, well he argued against the gag order that the prosecution brought forward in the beginning of this case. He didn't want it then, but now cries out anytime anyone will listen that the public's knowledge of this case wil make it hard to give his client a fair trial? Just mind boggling really!
That's a really good question, ecossie. Why a bone expert when she was cremated? I would guess that the bones were used to identify her and the balance rests in photography showing where they rested and what was attached to them. I think they want their own expert to study the photos.
As for the jury, they will be sequestered, including the alternates. There is no way someone could pretend to be on the jury.
I doubt the state is looking for doodles, Karen, but who knows with this defense?
I try to save everyone the headaches of having to sort through the motions, Margaret, and I'm glad it seems to be working. I agree that hoping to find someone from TES to come to the rescue is a deadend street, just like Suburban Drive. One thing the defense failed to recognize was that ALL of those volunteers did so in order to find Caylee, not to exonerate their client. It was all for Caylee and that turned into resentment after she was found. No one wants to help Casey.
The answer to question #1 is that Casey WILL have to attend her civil trial and the plaintiff's attorneys will put her on the stand. Who knows, she may be travelling from prison - or maybe it could be telecast. I don't know, but she'd have to be convicted and sentenced in her criminal trial first. As for the Grunds, no, I don't have a clue about why the depositions were cancelled.
Thank you, Margaret, about my journalism skills. That's much appreciated. As for an interview with the judge after all of this is said and done, there's no telling what I might have up my sleeve, but I can confidently say that the trolls are dead wrong.
Hi, Snoopy - Hopefully, we'll have a clearer idea about the 3 motions after tomorrow's hearing. I tend to agree with you on the judge's renderings, but I don't think it's too late in the game to bring in any other specialists. The trial is still almost 6 months away, and I think the judge would give the defense all the help it so desperately needs. Within reason, of course.
The reason I would ever really consider a mistrial or anything else that would compromise the trial is that we have seen what this defense is capable of. It used a blogger to nudge a judge off the bench, so I feel I am qualified to explain why it could be done in another manner. Suppose some nut job like wordslinger can sell her inane story, along with gracie34, to a rag mag like the Enquirer? Does that newspaper care if it's the truth or not? No, of course it doesn't. The whole idea sounds hinky to me, but imagine what impact that would have on the defense; all unfounded and groundless. There, between the two of them and a blog, they could wreak havoc.
When I went to Walmart to shoot video of that Walmart store, I was well within my rights, and I exposed the person for what he was - misguided. The truth is always better than fiction and I found out the truth. That riled the trolls. Tough crap. They have zero power over me. None. Zilch. Nada. They are gutless scum.
As far as Judge Strickland is concerned, it was an honor and a privilege to meet him. That's where I'll stop it. Except for one thing. I wonder if I could convince the judge, jury, prosecution and defense team to join me at the Waffle House on I-Drive after this is all over? After all, we all had a good time the last time we went. London is out of the question, unless the JAC tags along and picks up the tab.
Thank you, Peggy.
I have no sympathy, either, but yes, Baez is stuck with a pair of deuces. One thing that people need to understand is that he is not George and Cindy's attorney, and it's been pretty much established that they would have preferred a different counsel for their daughter, but that was her choice. I don't think any lawyer can really muzzle Cindy, but their new attorney seems to have things under control. If you look at the Scott Peterson case, his mother was all over the news spreading her son's innocence, but in the end, it did nothing to help his cause. Ultimately, it will be the same thing in Judge Perry's courtroom. The jury will listen to testimony, not the ever hungry media. In the end, the jury will decide based on factual information, not what Cindy tells the media.
As for revenge, YES! I hope to live another 30 years. Wordslinger will change her name to wordstutterer.
Yes, Rob, it's been a rel media circus, but it absolutely will not be one in that courtroom. The only thing that will matter regarding the blogs is who writes the fairest synopsis of the day's events. Yes, people have grown weary of it, but come next May, it will be all over the news. I mean everywhere!
Thanks for the friendly pat. This is what keeps me from dropping out.
Thank you, momfromthemidwest. I know there were some real problems with the blog, but I think it's fixed. There were codes left that opened new ad pages and I'm pretty sure they're history.
As much as the Anthonys have contributed to the media circus, remember what it's called, a MEDIA circus. That places the onus on them, not the Anthonys. If the Anthonys were to fall down in the media forest and no one was there to hear them, would they have made a noise? If there was no audience, would the media still give them air time? The Anthonys and, certainly the defense, are playing up the media because the media is at their beck and call. Who knows, maybe it's been part of Baez's plan all along; to make it impossible for his client to get a fair trial. It's not against the law. That's mind boggling!
Dave, Look at what you have done! Even after a tummy full of turkey and stuffing you still give us a fully explanatory and exciting write on the case procedures and surprises. I have been wondering some about the jury, how long before trial will they start working at making their juror selections. in this case I would think it would take a lot of time and have never really known how they actually start, Do they just call in people off the street or off jobs etc for interviews. I do not quite understand the
State's motion for all the tallying of the defense, is it to benefit the publics knowledge of excessive use of taxpayer monies and therefore somehow affect the mind of some future jurors who are taxpayers.
Good work Dave, I know you love to write, but sometimes we forget it is tedious "work" and needs
a great mind to keep it all in order, which you do so well.
It will be interesting to see how the defense handles the Zaneida G. information that Casey kept giving.
The sick Flabber BABERS are all "aflutter" at seeing you in court! haha What a sick, pathetic group of lazy azzed scuzz they are! Imagine how they are raising their children. I'm sure they are all
bullies. That's all they know.
Hope u will take ur camera with you...take the Babbers ohotos. It will be interesting to put a face on the evil ones. Think about it!
Linda D. Burdick and Ashton are a class act. Because of them, we will see Justice for Caylee! The BABS r a sorry group of humanity. Just a big wad of evil!
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Yup, New Puppy, and I just ate a turkey sandwich on toasted sourdough bread.
Jury selection is slated to start on May 9, and the trial is scheduled for May 16, so that means a week to choose the jury. Whenever I've been called for jury duty, it's randomly chosen. It used to be only licensed drivers, but now it's everyone, and by that, I think it means registered voters. The last time I was called was for a murder trial in Seminole County, but I had a very bad flu virus and I was sent home.
Judge Perry stated he will find a jury from a demographically similar area, but the trial will still be held in Orange County. The jury will be sequestered, so it's going to be a determined lot that's chosen.
I don't think the main reason the state motion was filed was because of the public's right to know, although that's part of it. I think it's because Jeff Ashton doesn't trust this defense and the law is on his side. He had every right to file the motion.
Thank you so very much. I really do appreciate hearing from you, and your words are very special to me.
The babs are nothing more than scatological droppings, Jan. From feral animals.
Dave-
I think they want this new specialist to attempt to prove the bones as they were found had to be placed there after Casey was incarcerated.
I am sure they have nothing they want to do with anything in the current state.
I think they are traveling down the wrong lane, and should be more focused on the plant life, and insects present, rather than the condition of decomp and the bones.
I also think they might have been wise to be researching the hydrology of that area during your last wet season, and studying the carrion present in that area.
Hope everyone had a "super" week end!
Regards-
K
ps, send me sign up info tomorrow am, if you don't mind! Thnx- K
I feel sure that most of the Babber's children are schoolyard bullies. That's all they know just by the actions of their scuzzy, lazy azzed parents. I can only imagine what their children observe. A bunch a booze swilling Welfarers with too much time on their hands, that love to target desent people just to cause hurt, and embarassement. Scary to imagine how they were brought up! Their crude, low life, bullying behavior speaks volumns! Well brought up people just don't behave in that manner. Dredges of society, and most are prolly booze swilling jailbirds. Wordslinger amd Hattie are just so full of GLEE when they cause hurt. That is SICK! They worship at the feet of a lowlife
POS and call him SIR!! How utterly repulsive. Most probably have a bunch of junked cars and beer cans scattered in their front yards. Imagine what the neighbors think of them!!
ALERT- Dave, time for hearing is now 1pm, not 1:30 per TCD. Everyone, synchronize yer watches.
Frankly, I'm amazed that Cindy A. has been able to keep her mouth shut this long.....unless she
has lockjaw!
(Wonder how many Babers will attend? Doubt their Welfare cks. have arrived for Dec., so prolly not many. )
Ecossie Posse: You made a VERY GOOD point! I can't ever remember Linda Drane B. or Mr. Ashton being on the media. Ever.
The defense is almost pathetic. They DON'T HAVE a defense, as far as I can tell. Really, what have they got? Of course, Henry Lee can make an effort to come up with something like a fingernail or hair....nothing believable that I can see. And, of course, Cindy can try to tell more lies, which aren't going to work, and just might get her in trouble. ('bout time!)
I still think this trial has gone on far too long, and should have been over months ago. IMO I feel for
the taxpayers of Fla.
Wonder how many Babbers (if any) will be in court tomorrow? I doubt many people will attend. I think people are losing interest. At least until the actual trial starts in May. jmo
You can watch the hearing live at WFTV today. Click on this link and then Watch Live Coverage at 1:pm
Casey Expected at Hearing Today
I think if bloggers are mentioned at trial it will be all as a whole not just the pro-prosecution blogs. All blogs, including the prodefense would have to be noted to prove the point.
As an aside, whatever the problem with my reading the site was fixed. I cleaned my cookies out and ran a virus search, rebooted and seem to be safely here again. I did send you a head's up Dave.
and as my last aside. A wonderful lady I know was widowed two years ago.Left with three small kiddos, no education and a husband killed by a drunk driver on his way home from work. She gets welfare now. Insults are our's to throw and own but I would like to say that using a person's financial issues, welfare, as some kind of inference as to their personality or worth as a human being is wrong in my eyes. There by the grace of God can go any of us. Welfare doesn't make a person a terrible soul, our words and actions do. A good lesson for all of us to share with our children.