Why Judge Lester Will Refuse to Recuse
I can understand why George Zimmerman’s defense attorneys, Mark O’Mara and Donald West, filed a motion for Judge Kenneth Lester, Jr. to step down. It makes sense. For one thing, had they not, it wouldn’t help pave the way for a retrial later on if Zimmerman is convicted. I’m sure he requested it, too, and no matter what, the attorneys are there to work for their client. Besides, George is used to getting what he wants, he believes this is a frivolous case, and he wants a new judge. So there. Only it doesn’t work that way, and there are some rather good and strong reasons why.
Let me first mention a few “for instances” that were mentioned in the actual motion filed by his attorneys, the VERIFIED MOTION TO DISQUALIFY TRIAL JUDGE, which can be viewed HERE, directly from the gzlegal.com Website.
On page 5, the motion says:
“Generally a statement by the judge that he feels a party has lied in a case indicates bias against the party.”
Now hold on a minute. Didn’t another judge once say something about the truth and Miss Anthony are strangers? That had nothing to do with his recusal request, did it? No, it didn’t, and as a matter of fact, look at it this way. If all I had to do was lie to a judge to get him/her disqualified for bias, I’d lie to every judge who comes rolling down the pike, and I’d never go to trial. They’d run out of judges long before the statute of limitation runs out. Like a lot of defendants, lie your way out of it.
Let’s move on to page 7:
“The Court states that the money used to post bail ‘… is not money which the Defendant has earned through his hard work and savings, so forfeiting it for failing to appear would not impact the Defendant’s life in the same manner as a similarly-situated defendant who puts his house up for collateral to obtain bond.’ Page 7, (f). However, the Court fails to note that his family’s home would thereby be forfeited if he failed to appear. Further, the Court ignores the reality that those funds are the only funds available to Mr. Zimmerman to survive, to eat, to pay for utilities and to provide his family shelter.”
Here are the problems I see. George Zimmerman not only lied to the court, he lied to his parents, who took out a second mortgage on their house to secure the bond money. What a weasel. He lied to his attorneys, too. As for food and shelter, it was clearly spelled out that the money was to be used for his defense, not to pay off credit card bills and to buy expensive guns. Aside from that, it’s a lousy excuse and a cheap argument.
From page 9:
“The Court departed from its role as an impartial, objective minister of justice when it stated on two occasions on its Order that in the Court’s personal opinion there is probable cause to believe that the Defendant committed a violation of Florida Statute 903.035(3), a third degree felony punishable by five years in prison. This is tantamount to instructing the State that Mr. Zimmerman should be prosecuted for this offense. Comments like these are taken seriously by the Defendant, and further convinces him that he cannot get a fair trial from this Court. The Court made a similar comment about his wife at the June 1, 2012 bond revocation hearing when it said…”
We all know what it said, and Shellie Zimmerman was duly charged. The problem here is that the motion blames the judge and not his client. Had his client and wife just told the truth to begin with, this would not be an issue. It’s a situation that is being passed off on the judge. The fact remains that the Zimmermans lied and the judge pointed it out, including what the possible charges and penalties might be. Who is to blame for that? Was the judge merely telling the truth? Poor George says he takes the judge’s comments seriously. Well, shiver in me boots. What about the judge? He took the Zimmermans’ comments seriously, too, but according to the Book of George, he wasn’t supposed to do that? Only George is allowed? Gimme a break. I could go on and on, but…
George is responsible for his own mess. Based on the recusal motion, I see nothing that warrants the judge to step down, but that’s only part of the reason why this judge will refuse to recuse.
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I think that most of you are aware of a role I played in a motion filed in another case where the presiding judge was asked to step down. I did an awful lot of legal studying back then, and in March of 2011, Casey Anthony’s defense filed a motion, the MOTION FOR A REHEARING ON ORDERS DENYING MOTIONS TO SUPPRESS, that had this one glaring statement:
c. The Court Did Not Look at the Evidence from the Hearing Objectively and Instead Displays a Clear Bias [emphasis mine] In Explaining Law Enforcement Conduct Rather than Evaluating Whether a Reasonable Person Would Have Felt Free to Leave.
Holy Foghorn Leghorn! Only thing is, under FLORIDA RULES OF JUDICIAL ADMINISTRATION, Rule 2.330, DISQUALIFICATION OF TRIAL JUDGES, “Any party, including the state, may move to disqualify the trial judge assigned to the case on grounds provided by rule, by statute, or by the Code of Judicial Conduct.” OK fine, but what it means is that the procedure for filing disqualification motions for civil and criminal cases is set out in Rule 2.160 of the Fla. R. Jud. Admin., amended by the Florida Supreme Court in 2004.
Since this is the route O’Mara and West are taking, they should be familiar with F.S. §38.10, which states:
Whenever a party to any action or proceeding makes and files an affidavit stating fear that he or she will not receive a fair trial in the court where the suit is pending on account of the prejudice of the judge of that court against the applicant or in favor of the adverse party, the judge shall proceed no further, but another judge shall be designated in the manner prescribed by the laws of this state for the substitution of judges for the trial of causes in which the prescribing judge is disqualified. Every such affidavit shall state the facts and the reasons for the belief that any such bias or prejudice exists and shall be accompanied by a certificate of counsel of record that such affidavit and application are made in good faith.
But please pay particular attention to this part:
However, when any party to any action has suggested the disqualification of a trial judge and an order has been made admitting the disqualification of such judge and another judge has assigned and transferred to act in lieu of the judge so held to be disqualified, the judge so assigned and transferred is not disqualified on account of alleged prejudice against the party making the suggestion in the first instance, or in favor of the adverse party, unless such judge admits and holds that it is then a fact that he or she does not stand fair and impartial between the parties. If such judge holds, rules, and adjudges that he or she does stand fair and impartial as between the parties and their respective interests, he or she shall cause such ruling to be entered on the minutes of the court and shall proceed to preside as judge in the pending cause. The ruling of such judge may be assigned as error and may be reviewed as are other rulings of the trial court.
Remember the first judge? Jessica Recksiedler? She was asked to recuse herself and that’s how Judge Lester came to the bench.
After Judge Recksiedler willfully stepped down, and she could have easily remained on the bench, Judge Lester cannot be disqualified because of alleged prejudice solely based on what Zimmerman claims. The only way it would work is if Lester admits he is biased in favor of the prosecution. Even then, his admission would merely be recorded in the court minutes and the trial would proceed on schedule. Of course, this would be reviewed after a conviction (if there is one) and it would, no doubt, lead to a retrial, but let me assure you, this judge will not fail. He will never admit to bias, and because he’s the second judge, the rules are different.
One of the misconceptions of trial court judges is that rulings are the basis for disqualifications. They are not, as O’Mara and West are claiming in their motion. A judge may not be disqualified for judicial bias. He/she can be disqualified, however, for personal bias against a party. (See Barwick, 660 So. 2d at 692, and cases cited therein.) You just have to prove it.
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Lest you think I will leave you dangling with merely one slice of cake from the book of rules, allow me to add a thick, sweet, slab of icing to the entire cake.
Back to good old Rule 2.160…
Section (g) deals with the filing of successive disqualification motions. This is to prevent the possibility of abuse, otherwise referred to as judge-shopping. Yes, you read it right… JUDGE-SHOPPING!
When Judge Recksiedler disqualified herself, Judge Lester cannot be disqualified on any successive motions filed by Zimmerman’s defense “unless the successor judge rules that he or she is in fact not fair or impartial in the case.” And that ain’t gonna happen, folks. Judge Lester will be allowed to toss out any new dismissal motions filed on Zimmerman’s behalf.
Reader Comments (130)
Dave, I can transcribe it from memory.
"I love you."
"I love you more."
"You are such a cutey pants"
"Are you warm enough?"
"I have my long johns on."
"What did you have for breakfast?"
"Sausage and Pancakes"
"Oh yummy."
"They bought it at 4 am."
" Your kidding."
"No, they shoved in under the door."
"What did they serve it on, a tray?"
"No, a styro foam container."
"I love you so very much."
"I love you more."
"You sound tired."
"I never slept very well last nite."
"I love you so very very much."
"I love you more."
* Snoopy stops again to gag and barf.
[They make me want to puke.]
Sean Hannity offers to pay George Z legal fees! Article at Global Grind.com
[I heard it wasn't true, too, Brandy, but in light of Zimmerman's agreement to the Hannity one-hour exclusive interview tonight, June 18, I may have to rethink it. I will await the intro before making any assessment. Zimmerman either agreed to do it for free or he's getting paid by FOX/Hannity. We'll see. It raised my eyebrows when I heard it, though.]
Brandy Calif~FOX News has denied that Sean Hannity is doing that. Sean laughs at the absurdity of it. Please don't clutter this thread up with rumors. Thanks!
[Well, tonight's show may mean there's some weight to the rumor. W'll see...]
Dave et al... What a stomach churning time but I finally got through all the calls. Zimmerman is a hypochondriac among other things. Shellie is just one of his many puppets who caters to his every whim. I doubt if Shellie still says "Cutey, I love you more," since she was charged with perjury. Z hung up on Shellie in one call, I think it was #113...she actually hollered at him as he was so overbearing. He only wanted her to say positive things to him. He had already had a long talk with some female and told her she was not allowed to discuss anything serious with him.
Z named off all the medications that he was taking while in jail. There had to be at least 7 or 8 different ones. He also said that he hoped to be near his doctor and psychologist when he got bonded out. O'Mara had a forensic psychiatrist visit with Z. So he has ADHD, is on Anxiety meds, can't sleep, sore throat and back...sick tummy etc etc yet he could gobble down the snacks.
George Zimmerman is a user and abuser. I do not think it would be too hard to diagnose him as having a depraved mind. I wonder if the donations will keep pouring in now. Z doesn't have a prayer with getting immunity on SYG.
I doubt if he will have a wife who will stand by him much longer. Surely his present spouse can't be that hard up.
Nan11~~God love you. I think you were scooting along about 4 or 5 calls ahead of me. I hope your stomach has settled down and you didn't tear all your hair out.
"I love you so much." "Oh honey, I love you more, you little cutie "..... and on and on and on and on....
and, "I love you, young man." " I love you too Daddy."...........barf and gag...
[You are a glutton for punishment, Snoopy. There's no way I could have the stomach for listening to George and Pookiepoo, or whatever he calls his wife. And his voice alone is enough to gag maggots on a manure spreader. I think he deliberately spoke the way he did because he was aware the calls were recorded and that they would be released. He made sure he was soft-spoken to reflect how mild-mannered and timid he is. For goodness sake, the poor boy would never have been the aggressor. Just listen to him. He's a charlatan. He's a manipulative bastard. Yes, he's well aware that all of this will bring in mucho donations, and in the end, his "innocence" will help sway the jury.]
You know, I may be just plain stupid—but I believe Mark O’Mara. He is not some sleazy two-bit lawyer out to make his mark on this case.
Let’s remember that Zimmerman has admitted to the police that he has trouble with his memory; and if we review the list of medications he is on—it is easy to accept this as the truth.
The New York Times – Zimmerman Lawyer Denies Revelations in Martin Case
Quote: “He didn’t have a conversation about 37 with me,” Mr. O’Mara said. “If there was $37,000 floating around somewhere, I would have been interested in it for a number of reasons.”
Snipped
Mr. O’Mara said he was aware at the time that there were two other Web sites raising money for Mr. Zimmerman with a total of $2,200. End of Quote
However, there is this little statement, (quoted below), that might raise a red flag for me.
For instance, if Zimmerman talked to his attorney about a transfer not going through, shouldn’t Mark have realized that it must have been for quite a bit of money? If Mr. O’Mara was only aware of $2,200.00—what could he have thought was causing the issuing of the failed money transfer? I’m just rambling here. It could be the way the author of the article chose to insert Mark’s statements, or the way I’m interpreting it. I don’t know.
Quote: “He did say something about talking to me about the transfer not going through, but it wasn’t particularly relevant to me,” he said. “That was all I remember.” End of Quote
I’ll add the call link again with a few additional statements added to the transcription. (The conversations starts a little less than an inch in.)
WKMG Call 30
Person George Called: So, how is it going?
George: Fair. My attorney seems to have everything under control. I asked him about the website and about making some sort of statement on there. You know—saying that I am still receiving all the support. You know. And, ah, he said that he would talk to you about that. I told him—he said he has talked to you already...
Person George Called: Yeah.
George: So, he said that he would talk to you about that. I told him, you know, what my intentions were; and, ah, but he seems to have a really good idea of what the media—of what to do with the media. So...
Person George Called: Okay.
George: I trust him. Ah, I did tell him that—you know—we did try and make one transfer of 37 and that it got held up because it is over the ten—you know. So, he knows about that. But he still...
Person George Called: Does he know the volume?
George: No.
Person George Called: Okay.
George: And ah...
Person George Called: I’d like to keep that with us.
George: I think so, too. I agree.
Person George Called: Yeah.
George Called: And you can share that with Shellie. But...
Person George Called: Yeah. She already..she is up to speed.
George: Okay. Good.
Except for the quotes, all the statements are jmo. (Sorry for the length of this.)
[While I agree O'Mara is not sleazy, he's still a lawyer and that's why there are lawyer jokes. I try to look at it as pragmatically as possible, and as I've said before about other attorneys, O'Mara is a CRIMINAL defense attorney, and sometimes, they defend REAL criminals. His job is to free his client, not make himself look virginal. If he can get away with both, then God bless him. As for whether he knew about some of the money, like $37K of it, the jury's still out on that one as far as I'm concerned. I won't call him a flat-out liar, but I won't tell you I believe every word he says, either. To do so would be foolish. Keep in mind, at $400+ per hour, he's paid to remember ALL of the details, and that includes what he selectively chooses to forget.]
I think it was in one of the phone calls where George tells someone about a lady who sent him $60.00 and promised to have a garage sale so she could send him some more. (Please—I know he said he wrote her and explained this was unnecessary. This is the ‘good’ Georgie.)
So, my first link reveals a short assessment of what Zimmerman did with some of that money. The second link is the actual court records Mr. O’Mara submitted for review. (I did link this before, but just for convenience, I’ll re-link it.)
I cannot wrap my mind around why good and decent people would send him money.
I do not care what color Trayvon Martin’s skin was. I do not care that he was wearing a hoodie. I do not care that he asked for some kind of cigar at the store that night. I do not care if traces of marijuana were found in his system. I do not even care if the nasty rumors about him ‘swinging’ at a bus driver are true.
The fact is George Zimmerman shot an unarmed 17 year old boy. He shot that boy as that boy walked to his father’s girlfriend’s home from a convenience store, where he had just purchased candy and a can of soda. In the early evening.
Trayvon Martin will never get another chance. Never. And not a single one amongst us has the right to judge what he might have been. Or what he might not have been.
The pain that the family of Trayvon Martin are feeling today, has only just begun.
George Zimmerman does not deserve any hard earned money from decent folks. Imhoo
The Miami Herald - Zimmerman spent $36K in 18 days on phones, Internet, credit cards and bills
Quote: George Zimmerman went through almost $36,000 of contributions in 18 days spent mostly in jail, spending a bulk of his newfound cash on telecommunications, newly filed court records show. End of Quote
Notice of FilingQuote: Please accept this as response to the inquiry regarding the existence and availability of “legal defense funds” during the time just before and just after the bond hearing on April 20, 2012. I have enclosed for your review a summary page entitled “Monthly Sales Report for the month of April 2012”, which documents the inflow of monies into the PayPal account during its active time period (Exhibit A). As can be seen, the first monies were deposited on 4/9/2012, and the last monies were deposited on 4/27/2012. Of note is that, while these monies would have been identified as transactions on the dates of this report, those monies would not actually have been available in the account for several days, as a transaction delay. End of Quote
[Personally, I think George is the perfect actor to portray Gollum/Smeagol. He's so "innocent," yet so deceptive. I don't trust him one bit.]
Sean Hannity Nabs First Interview With George Zimmerman, Airing Tonight
Quote: According to Fox News, Zimmerman will “open up about what happened the night of Trayvon Martin’s death and his experience in the aftermath of the fatal shooting.” His defense attorney, Mark O’Mara, will also be part of the show, answering questions about the case overall...{snipped} End of Quote
Just an FYI: I don't know where this part is coming from--but some are saying that Baez is going to be on there with O'Mara and Zimmerman. I'm not really sure if that is a joke, or what. (Well, it is a joke to me--but still...)
[If anything, Baez's appearance would sink the donations. But who knows... perhaps Hannity will pay his fee, too.]
Does anyone know if Mr. Zimmerman does this News show how will it affect his claim he cannot get a fair trial because of the media? Also is it normal to speak on a National News show before an actual trial? Will the Prosecutor's be able to use this to their advantage if (not if but when) he changes his story again.
If what Witness 9 accused him of is true, well than he is a sicko. Makes me wonder if that is why he had family issues. Maybe Mrs. Zimmerman will leave him, save herself and testify against this crazy man.
[I guess it depends on how he handles it tonight, and what Hannity's questions are like, but he certainly is putting himself out there in the public. No way can he ever complain about getting a fair trial when he's the one doing half of the instigating, either thru his attorney or himself, or both. Mostly, he's a conniver. He knows how to work a crowd. He still thinks his apology was believable and Trayvon's parents were insincere and rude for not accepting it. He doesn't realize his lies are recognized. Let's see what he lies about tonight, but the main thing is, the money will flow in, and that's what he wants. Sympathy bucks. Lots and lots of it.
Will the prosecutors be able to use it against him? I would imagine some of it. He can't open his trap without lying. Although O'Mara will be with him. Hmm.]
My prediction: the purpose of the interview tonight is for GZ to make it known how much remorse he feels about having killed Trayvon. He will claim to have been devastated by the enormity of it all. MOM is, at least, a human being, and I'm sure that GZ's cold and heartless manner about Trayvon's death is evident to him. I predict that tonight GZ will say that he is traumatized by having taken a young life.
Of course, he will also proclaim his innocence of the abuse charges. He will speak with sadness in his voice of his "unstable" cousin, who has a history of emotional problems. I hope this angers the other victim enough that she comes forward.
I also wonder whether there is anyone else out there who has experienced abuse from GZ.
[He's definitely going to butter up his audience. Yes, he will apologize and all his supporters will proclaim that's the end of it. What more should anyone expect him to do? I'll tell you what he expects. He expects all of his contributors to support him for the rest of his life. Just keep sending him money because he'll convince you he'll never be able to work again. Nor will his wife.
I don't know about his cousin. This may have been recorded before the abuse story broke.]
I cannot believe that a reasonable attorney with let Z do this. All my lawyer friends have always told me to keep the client's damn mouth shut until its done.
Most people hang themselves.
[Simple equation, Frankie. Zimmerman needs the money because O'Mara expects to get paid. Zimmerman is very good at eliciting sympathy and money, and O'Mara knows it.]
Dave~~ It seems that Witness #9's interview was released to taint a jury pool. This case is being tried in the media so Mark O'Mara is going to counteract with a few tricks he has up his sleeve by accompanying and Z going on Hannity's show tonight. Zimmerman will not be under oath in a courtroom so anything he says on the show cannot be held against him. Right? He cannot be cross examined on it... maybe they want to drive De La Rionda nuts. Of course, maybe it is desperation on O'Mara's part to do some much needed damage control for not only his client but himself. These unexpected events do tend to make this case interesting... a surprise around every corner.
[Let me put it this way... when LE reads you your rights, anything you do or say can be used against you. During an arrest, you are not under any sort of oath, yet it can be used in court. Anything that Zimmerman says is open season, just like his pathetic reenactment. Yes, absolutely, what he said was not under oath at the time of the interview with Hannity, but he did, in fact, say it. If he denies it under oath, the jury will see him as a liar, but that will only serve to add more fuel to that aspect of the prosecution. He's a liar.
I think the brunt of it will be an apology of sorts and an indirect plea for money. He will bolster his side of the story and that's why he needs everyone's support. Hey, maybe Romney and Obama can pick up some pointers.]
Dave~~While in jail, Zimmerman made 151 phone calls. That is an average of on the phone 3 to 5 hours per day. I wonder if that beats out Casey's record of her time on the phone or texting before she was hauled off to the slammer.
[And that was just from the first month in jail, right? Nothing can beat Casey. She's the master texter.]
Preview..Zimmerman & Hannity
Notice what he is saying when he closes his eyes.... he is fabricating...Qutie the showman eh?
It's my understanding that Hannity's interview with Z and MOM was pre-recorded.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/18/sean-hannity-george-zimmerman-interview_n_1683300.html
"Hannity interviewed both Zimmerman and his attorney, Mark O'Mara, for an episode that will air on Wednesday night".
[Yes, Sarah, so I understand, but when??? Thanks. I do wonder whether it was before Monday's release of tapes and Witness #9's accusations. We'll find out, I reckon.]
From Sarah's link: Hannity/Zimmerman interview
It's a definite coup for Hannity, though not an entirely surprising one. He spoke with Zimmerman off the record in April, when Zimmerman bucked the advice of his attorneys and got in touch with the Fox News host.
Seems that GZ went against his council's advice. And finally got his way.
[I don't know, Sherry... this might not be a bad thing, public relations-wise. Zimmerman is smooth and his supporters will cough up lots of money. Isn't that kind of what O'Mara wants? To get paid? Even if he did object, he works for Zimmerman, not the other way around, and so far, all I've seen is the Big Z making demands. The judge didn't buy into his plan to testify only to him, and that's what made him have a tantrum. He didn't get his way. Get rid of that judge!]
Dave~~Zimmerman cannot be crossed on anything he says on the Hannity show unless it is introduced into evidence... the door has to be opened.
Z is the master liar. Casey is the master texter but you, Dave, you are the master de bater.
Dang keyboard skips...must be the heat. Sry.
[Whatever Zimmerman says tonight will be part of his defense, I'm certain, so the bottom line issue is whether he takes the stand or not, and my guess is that his own ego will make sure of it. If so, it will be used if something can come out of it. Also, and how quickly one forgets, everything Zimmerman says on TV is public. It is not protected speech. It can be used. There are no laws that prohibit it. For example, the state was allowed to present Casey's dance party pictures in the blue dress. Why? Because she published them online. Once there, they were in the public domain. Anyway, the first point is most important. If he doesn't take the stand, then there will be no cross, but tonight's information can be presented in court, I'm sure, if it works to the state's advantage.]
Dave~~I expect Judge Lester will stay put and in that case, O'Mara wont even attempt trying for immunity on SYG. So maybe the plan is, Z will never take the stand but instead give many interviews to get his story across. They will never ever be able to find an unbiased jury so will have to keep declaring mistrials. In the meantime, Z gets richer and richer...so does O'Mara and West.
[There's no doubt everyone will get rich from duping the public, but everyone loves a showman and Zimmerman is a pro at shistering. Scheisseman is more like it. By the way, tonight will clearly validate the state's response to the recusal motion.]
Dave~ ~maybe O'Mara is really Dog the Bounty Hunter in disguise. Don't forget that Zimmerman deceived Mark... and that was a no no to do to an Irishman.
[I'll bet you O'Mara is just like all the rest. His job is to defend his clients, not trust them, but I know what you mean.]
Dave~~when someone is lying and trying to deceive others, they keep making their stories bigger and bigger. In the end, they will back themselves into a corner with no escape. Eventually they will put the noose around their own neck. I wonder if Z is bi polar besides the ADHD and all the other maladies he thinks he has
[He's going to go after the sympathy vote, that's for sure, hoping the jury will feel sorry for him and his mind problems, but he's too egotistical to understand the difference between that and apathy. 'Mind Games' is more like it.]
Is Mr. Zimmerman serious? Did he just seriously say Trayvon skipped away? ROFLMAO. It gets worse for him every time he opens his trap. Mr. Zimmerman does not regret it, God's plan? The people who defend him must be just like him. How else could they even defend that? For all Trayvon knew this guy could be a child molester, and that is not really that far fetched according to witness 9.
How can he shoot and kill a kid who did nothing wrong and then say he does not regret it?
I can see my headline for tomorrow...
ZIMMERMAN: I'M SORRY, BUT IT WAS GOD'S PLAN
Why bother apologizing to Trayvon's parents? Next thing out of his mouth is he does not regret it. That's messed up. Oh now he is taking it back, guess Mr. O'Mara told him how bad that sounded.
[And he knew exactly when to take his eyes off Hannity and focus on the camera to get his message apart. He thinks he's good. He is, but he's not that good.]
Here is the part of the interview where he is apologizing:
Hannity/Zimmerman Interview on FOXNews
I noticed that FOXNews is partial to GZ's side.
Michelle: You said: How can he shoot and kill a kid who did nothing wrong and then say he does not regret it?
IMO, that is easy for him to say because it is his 'truth'. He really believes it. Trayvon's life had no value to him what-so-ever.
I hope this interview comes back to bite him, big time. (Hornsby tweeted that the prosecution can subpoena the whole, uncut, taped footage.)
Just an FYI if anyone is interested: I 'heard' that Tony Pipitone is going to interview Mark O'Mara tonight at eleven.
In the last bond order the Judge made it clear Mr. Zimmerman is not allowed to contact Mr and Mrs Martin. Directly or indirectly? Did that horrible apology count tonight? It came up on my twitter account, so now I am curious.
[Good question, Michelle. Whatever, if anything, it would be an indirect apology, but I don't think the state wants to charge him for every little technicality or infraction. That would be a loose interpretation, too, so it wouldn't be easy to prosecute. Trumping up the charges, maybe.]
Interview but just audio-38.35 minutes
The bond order reads: b. The Defendant shall not have any contact with the victim's family, directly or indirectly, except as necessary to conduct pretrial discovery through his attorneys;
I would leave a link but they do not work.
I did put up a quick post on my thoughts. I'm going to bed because I've got 2 days of heart tests ahead of me. Nothing to worry about. I may not be able to participate in comments, though.
"A judge may not be disqualified for judicial bias. He/she can be disqualified, however, for personal bias against a party." So then what you're saying is that his allegation that the Zimmerman's mislead the Court (commited perjury) is judicial bias and not personal bias? But what you are probably thinking is that Shellie DID commit perjury when, in fact, case law supports that she did not, and will never be convicted even if it is deemed material, because she was never asked the specific questions to have given the specific anwsers she is believed by Lester she "lied" about knowing!
[I will be addressing both of those issues on my next post, which I hope to have finished by tomorrow. Your account of what Shellie did and didn't say is something that warrrants some serious attention because I see that it's others who are saying the same thing you are. Interesting...]
To Not So Fast (from July 15) -
I am working on a response, which will be on my next post.
I do want you to know that your comment was hung up in comment limbo for a whole week and didn't surface until today. Where was it? I have no idea, but I'm sorry for it. I hope it doesn't dissuade you from commenting again.