Through Paranoid Eyes
Monday, June 25, 2012 at 4:00PM I don’t know if it’s just me? Or if anyone else noticed it, too? It seems that George Zimmerman likes to end his verbal discussions on a high note. By that, I don’t mean positive. He ends his sentences like he’s asking a question. He turned here? He walked over there? I lost sight of him? It sounds as if he’s not sure of himself and he’s subconsciously asking for a vote of confidence or a pat on the back or redemption or justification or something. I don’t know. Maybe, it’s just me, but I noticed something else that connects with it. Beginning with his written statement to police and in every subsequent explanation he’s given to date, he starts each account of the night of February 26 with an excuse for why he shot Trayvon Martin.
“In August of 2011, my neighbor’s house was broken into…” Most of the first page of the Sanford Police Department Narrative Report is dedicated to the past, not the present. Tell us what happened on this night, George, not about last August. Does he always think this way or is he seeking atonement for what he had done?
(Before I go further into my own assessment, let me say that, until some sort of confrontation took place, George was well within his right to get out of his car and walk around the neighborhood for whatever reason. He broke no laws, but was it the prudent thing to do? That’s another issue altogether. If he wanted to be a hero that night, there was nothing in the world to stop him. Not even his own better judgement, if such a thing exists. The law was on his side going into it.)
I’m going to look at the video reenactment of the night and compare it with the phone call to the SPD dispatcher. Right up front, I’ll tell you I don’t put much faith in George’s account of events. I base this not on bias or prejudice, but on George’s own words to investigators and the dispatcher, plus photographic evidence taken the night of the shooting.
At the onset of the video, George is shown leaving his home at 1950 Retreat View Circle, where he travels north and spots Trayvon at the first bend in the street, curving to the right. He said he was on his way to the grocery store. Certainly, I can understand his suspicion because of other break-ins in the neighborhood, and here was someone, a person, he was not familiar with. Interestingly, in a subsequent interview with police, he stated that he was aware of everyone living in that complex.
As Trayvon walked east, after entering an unorthodox, but commonly used entrance, George continued driving ever so slowly, keeping a watchful eye on his prey. He noted, in great detail — and despite suffering from ADHD — every move his suspect made, even though sunset came at 6:23 pm that day. Sanford police logs showed his call began at 7:09:34 pm, 46 minutes into darkness. Granted, lights and rainy reflections from streets and porches may have impacted what he saw, but it was a far cry from daylight. George slowly passed the boy and pulled into a parking spot in front of the clubhouse, where he called the dispatcher on the non-emergency number. At this time, Trayvon was across the street, behind him. Of course, it’s only common sense that, until I pass you, I am following you. Once I pass you, you are following me.
It’s important to note that, throughout the police call, George had nothing but negative things to say about Trayvon. Something’s wrong with him. He’s on drugs or something. He’s up to no good.
At nearly one minute into the call, George said, “… now he’s coming toward me,” and, “Yup, he’s coming to check me out…”
Trayvon kept walking and went past George and the clubhouse, turning right on Twin Trees. “These assholes always get away,” George reacted as he lost sight of the boy. This is where he goes after Trayvon again by following him in his truck. At 2:09 minutes into the phone call, he exited the vehicle without provocation from the dispatcher. In other words, the dispatcher did not ask him to do anything, and that included no request for an address.
On the video reenactment, George stated that the dispatcher asked him if he could go somewhere where he can see him. Not true! The dispatcher made no such request. He also told the detective (during the reenactment) that Trayvon went around the back of the townhouses, away from view, and returned to circle his vehicle. He also said that he told the dispatcher of this move during the phone call.
He told the dispatcher no such thing. There was nothing said about circling his vehicle. Instead, during the phone call, you can hear George’s heavy breathing and the wind in the phone, indicative of someone running. He was chasing after the boy. Up to this point, no word was said on the phone about finding a street name or building number.
The dispatcher asked him, “Are you following him?”
He responded, “Yeah.”
The dispatcher advised him that, “OK, we don’t need you to do that!” By the way, I did speak with the supervisor of dispatchers with Seminole County and she told me it is strictly advice. George was under no legal obligation to obey the directive.
“OK,” George said, but you could still hear the wind in his phone. Moments later, he told the dispatcher that his suspect ran. He lost him! But it was quite evident he was still searching. The dispatcher then asked George for his name and where the police, now on their way, would find him. Would he be near his truck? When asked where his truck was parked, George wasn’t sure of the address. The dispatcher offered a solution. What about in front of the mailboxes, alongside the clubhouse? George agreed, but in the end, he wanted no part of that, because he interrupted the dispatcher. “Actually, could you have them [the police] call me and I’ll tell them where I’m at?”
“Okay, yeah, that’s no problem.” Little did the dispatcher know that this was George’s cue to continue his search. At no time did the dispatcher ask him for a physical address.
During the reenactment, however, he told a completely different story. In the video, he said the dispatcher asked him, “Where did he go, which direction did he go in?”
George answered, “I don’t know, I lost… ‘cause he cut down here and made a right. I guess it’s TWIN TREES LANE.” He goes on to say the dispatcher asked him if he could see the boy. He said he couldn’t. He claimed the dispatcher asked him to get somewhere where he could see him, but that’s not true. He was asked no such thing. Instead of backing out of the clubhouse spot like he told the detective on the video, in reality, George was desperately seeking Trayvon. And he knew the name of the street he turned on.
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George Zimmerman Police Call w. Time Stamps and Notes
George Zimmerman video reenactment
END OF PART 1
In the second part, I will explore the shooting. How close to the truth was George?
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Reader Comments (80)
Google..........trayvon martin punches bus driver
There will be no SYG motion in my opinion. MOM doesn't dare put GZ on the stand and that is the only way he could do it. The prosecution would chew him up and spit him out. The inconsistencies are numerous. Just an example, but one discrepancy is that he claims that he was still on Trayvon when wit #13 came over with his flash light. We know from many witnesses he was already up walking toward the T. Another discrepancy is that he claims he asked wit #13 for help to keep Trayvon to the ground as he was still under the impression that TM wasn’t actually shot. Again, he was up pacing by TM’s body as explained by Selma & Mary, but also wit #12, #13 & #18. Plus, none of the witnesses recall GZ requesting help holding Trayvon down.
I would also like to see the link to substantiate that Trayvon ever punched a bus driver, or any of the other rumors that are being spread about.
Alrighty I read it......but "swung on" and "punching" are two different things imo
Dave, each time I post the comment box disappears and never comes back...lol
I'm thinking you don't want me to post......not really
But everytime I post, it say "Your post was accepted and will be posted soon" or something like that. Then I refresh, my post is there, but no comment box. Am I doing something wrong?
[I have no idea what the problem is, EDRN. Squarespace says there isn't one, but we know better. The best advice I can give is to write your comment in Notepad or something similar and copy&paste it into the comment box. That way, if it doesn't publish, you have a back-up. Other than that, I'm as helpless as you and everyone else. Sorry about it, though.]
It should be pointed out that thi bus driver incident was -only- a tweet from Travons cousin. Travon did not answer the tweet. And there was no action taken against Travoin. The conclusion is the story took legs of it's own.
Another observation: GZ himself states that the recording of the screams doesn’t sound like him, yet his father (and others) have claimed that without a doubt that is GZ screaming, and anyone who knows George knows that’s his voice. HMMM. Oh yeah, is that so, huh? Funny they say that sounds just like George when he admits on tape it doesn’t.
There is absolutely no motive for TM to have attacked GZ except if GZ had his gun drawn, which I have stated I believe is a fact since the inception of this case. TM attacking just to attack doesn’t seem to make any sense. If TM wanted to attack just to attack, he had plenty of opportunities. He would have taken the first, if he really just wanted to attack someone for no reason. TM ran. That doesn’t indicate someone looking for an attack. He’s coming towards me…he’s checking me out…he’s got his hand in his waistband…he’s got something in his hands all comes BEFORE he runs. He never mentions him passing him then coming back towards him, and it doesn’t fit the timeline. TM passed GZ, and went on his way. All of GZ’s comments that TM's doing this or that appear to be all in his mind. Also, all this garbage of TM was still outside, TM was up at the other end of the sidewalk, and TM wouldn’t run doesn’t prove shit! Nothing says TM had to be scared before the encounter, and nothing says he had to run. TM could be anywhere he wanted doing friggin jumping jacks while making monkey noises. Just because GZ says it happened one way, DOES NOT MAKE IT SO! There is not a shred of evidence that proves that TM started it. There’s more circumstantial indicators that it was GZ than TM.
Suspensions for non-violent offenses does not add up to TM attacking. All the other TM claims come predominantly from FB and Twitter. I don’t take unsubstantiated rumor from fake and hacked social media accounts as any sort of proof of anything. I don’t take unsubstantiated gossip as proof, either. Nothing legitimate proves TM was in any way violent. TM was probably not an angel. I doubt any 17 year old male is an angel. Where is the bus driver TM allegedly attacked? Where is the info on the jewelry TM allegedly had? Where is there someone claiming that is their property and that is stolen? Where are all the people that have been terrorized by this allegedly violent, thug, criminal TM? Hmmm. It really makes you wonder! TM had no arrest record, and no convictions. GZ had an arrest for a fight with LE. GZ had an injunction for domestic violence. GZ has documented road rage. GZ and his wife are documented for both failing to pay CC bills. It is documented that him and his wife both attempted to deceive the court. GZ has more substantiated claims of bad behavior, but somehow TM is the thug. And don't even get me started on GZ's web sites.
I believe it is the forensics, timeline, and GZ’s own words that will prove his guilt. We must remember doubt must fit the reasonable person standard, and GZ’s claim must fit ALL of the requirements for SYG/Self-Defense.
Exactly Porky. If Trayvon had of swung on a bus driver, he would have been expelled - no tolerance is the standard rule in all schools now days. This is nothing but rumor by pro-GZ people.
Dave~~I am working on an assignment for the other place. Will connect with you on the flip side. Maybe after Friday, we will have something new to discuss. You will be attending? Oui? déjà vu
[I am going to do my best to attend the hearing, Snoopy. Definitely!]
EDRN, This is where I saw the information that Serino was the source of the leaks:
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2012/6/27/2462/59282
But now I see that this was based on Twitter comments that were later disavowed by the ABC reporter. So it seems to be in the category of unsupported rumor. I read this yesterday, and it made so much sense as an explanation for Serino's demotion that I somehow thought the information was solid. Talkleft, for all its sins (the pro-Zimmerman bias is very strong), is usually free of unsupported rumors because the moderator is vigilant about deleting posts with misinformation. Sorry for having posted it.
Nice to see you, Cherokee!
On the rumor that Trayvon punched a bus driver, there have been many damaging rumors about Trayvon floating around the internet. Before the 7-11 videos were released, there was even a rumor that he had stolen the iced tea and skittles.
Dave, I did notice the strange way that GZ speaks during the re-enactment, with the rising inflection at the end of each sentence. This is not his usual way of speaking. He did not speak this way during the 911 calls or the jailhouse calls.
Many great comments have come out and Ms. Pippin's was very exceptional.
As too Snoopy's comment about the "head bashing" of GZ I've been under the same impression going as far as to suggest self inclicted...it can only imagine that when there is a struggle of any callibur the person being pinned on the bottom would be wiggling quite a bit. When looking at the back of GZ head following I did not note any abrasions which I would suspect to find. Its obvious that the nose is broken but the head injuries are a little speculative. Head wonds bleed a lot...i mean alot so although he looked pretty bloody I would speculate to say that they were almost superficial.
As to the supposed "bus driver incident" like many of here have already stated, if this was an issue he would've been expelled and not knowing the context in which the text originated it too is speculative.
As to MollyK's statement regarding GZ's rising infelection when interviewed he did the same thing when he re-enacted. I equated this to a little too contrived and melting into "grand standing" as his words became more questionably certain as more and more people gathered. Dave points to this as well however his intuition also tells him that GZ is hiding a lot of stuff and is feeding Joe Publc a lot of crap (so much so I've got pink eye from all the BS). GZ has to keep this up in order to ensure reasonable doubt however as Ms. Pippin and Dave pointed out there is only a couple minutes that elapsed and his relaying of the story seems to add perhaps several minutes. Let's not forget that he is also adlibbing to an extent and has confused a lot of his facts and, perhaps, intentionally,
I say "intentionally" because if a person has a habit of telling tall tales and or over explaining, as i suspect GZ, his "lies" (a little harsh here) are sprinkled with some truth...its his inability to seperate what really happened and what he thinks happened....contrived if you will.
Right now Joe Public is forming their own opinion and he is going to have to gain sympathy which, to me, he is moving away from. I do believe he had/has dillusions of grandeur and believes he is a type of super hero as one of my first posts commented too but, not to go off on another tangent but it was kinda mulled over by another poster....
When it comes to crime in America (at least from what I've seen recently) the biggest most notoriouis criminals are the ones you dont expect. A Police Cheif here in Colorado...has a jail named after him, was a pinnacle of society was found guilty of soliciting sex with minor boys and providing drugs...he's in jail at the location named after him...that's irony at its best!!! He's not the only one wh is in such a high possition of trust and public view to be such a public figure but behind closed doors is the Devil. Government officials, like senators or congressmen, sometimes come out denouncing homosexuality only to find out that they are, in secret, closed homosexuals....the best cover is to "front". Follow the ball not the hand.
It is my opinion that GZ is/was doing exactly that. Fronting. IMO the Neighborhood watch was a cover. Not saying he was doing anything illegal but it was just a title and provided him a "reason" to be a common thug...but with a little dash of legality...IMO
[I agree with you, BMan. Had Zimmerman been my age, he'd be one of those guys telling you he's a Vietnam War veteran, having never spent a minute near a military base. You can smell 'em coming.]
Hello Old Timers, New Timers and In-Betweeners!
YES! Mystical Pippin, it's unanimous, you wrote an incredible comment and you really touched on the heart and soul of Zimmerman and his wife. They are professional liars. I am convinced that George's father used his power to keep George out of trouble all these years. He enabled his son and created a monster. I hope he is proud of himself.
Just checking in to catch up... an electrical storm is fast approaching so am shutting down...
Dave~ ~I agree. Mystical's comments were made with an 'open mind' and were thoughtful and non intrusive.
Bye...bbl
[Yup, MP's comment was a real treat to read. She said it all.]
I am wondering why GZ's physician documented black eyes the day after the shooting, when it is clear from the re-enactment video that he did not have black eye, but only dark circles under his eyes like he had during the bond hearing.
[His eyes were a little black, but not like he had been beaten to a pulp. Not even close. I've concluded he's not a man, he's a wimp.]
MollyK-when first reported I thought the same, it did not appear he had any hint of a black-eye, as one would commonly find when someone gets there nose broke, but when the recently released those photos showing the cuts on his head and the obvios swollen nose I had no way to argue...not to mention that although the physican indicated the he did receive a broken nose there does not seem to be any mention of his nose being re-set? I guess anything's possible but side with the last sentence in your post ☺
Dave~~ do you think that Shellie Z will be called to testify tomorrow as per their financial status now and back then?
Zimmerman will appear in court tomorrow wearing civilian clothes.
Source
[Boy, Snoopy, that's a great question and I don't have an answer for you. My guess would be that if she does, it will be from an unknown location. Since she's not under the care of the SCSO, that would be (almost) tantamount to putting her under duress and undo strain. She can't afford protection and the county is under no obligation to provide it unless arrangements have been made based on the unusual circumstances. So... in other words, I just don't know.]
Shellie is not on any witness list, so she is not expected to testify.
Thx Dave. IIRC, a couple of bonds people will testify. I am dodging big boomers here in the north, ugly looking clouds... I jotted the following down so may as well plant it in here... had it stored in my notepad...lol
Dave~ ~Mark O'Mara is handling the defense fund (with the aid of a third party) and unless something shady is taking place, and another fund under an assumed alias exists, that is the only fund. Now will the balance of the defense fund be considered security in the bond hearing? I am not sure if O'Mara is being paid, periodically, for his fees from the fund. Mark said the fund was taxable income but it has been debated that the donations are considered gifts. (if individual donations are $13G or under) I still have yet to get any verification on the funds as to gifts or income. It is certainly not earned income in my books.
I would sure like to see the balance of that account and distributions...eg..living expenses for Shellie.
I wonder if the donations to the fund took a nose dive after it was learned that Shellie was paying off outstanding debts such as Sam's club. I even noticed they purchased a case of beer. It was on the statement that came out in the doc dump.
Shellie will have her day in court on July 31st when she is due to be arraigned. I have a feeling that she will not be testifying tomorrow but O'Mara will have to provide proof of her bank account.
There is also the possibility that finances will be a mute subject tomorrow and Judge Lester will not even entertain letting Z bond out. Most legal analysts feel Z is entitled to bond. It should make for an interesting tomorrow and I am glad you will be our eyes and ears in the courtroom.
Has anyone noticed that once GZ walked to RVC while still supposedly on the phone with the dispatcher that he never gives this information to the dispatcher? I suspect that this is because GZ in reality never went to RVC to get an address for the dispatcher, but went to RVC to look for Trayvon. The story of looking for an address is an after the fact story made up by GZ - unfortunately for GZ, the non911 tape does not lie. So riddle me thi George: Why walk to RVC to get an address to give the dispatcher when your vehicle was not on RVC but on Twin Tree Lane? How was a RVC address going to help LE locate your vehicle?
The only reason to lie is because he is trying to conceal that he followed Trayvon down that sidewalk between the townhouses and he does not want anyone to know that. All of the discrepancies point to the fact that GZ ignored the dispatcher's request not to follow Trayvon - but he did and he confronted Trayvon.
One thing that stands out in contradiction to GZ's video reenactment and video statements is that the location where he claimed the confrontation took place is approximately 20 feet or more away from the location where Trayvon’s body was found.
The bottom line is Trayvon’s body and the debris field is too far down the sidewalk between the two rows of townhomes from the T intersection to support Zimmerman’s claim that Trayvon confronted him and knocked him down up at the T intersection.
Given the location of Trayvon’s body and his phone, there is no doubt that the initial confrontation took place somewhere down the sidewalk in the direction of the home where Trayvon and his father were staying.
I think Zimmerman either followed Trayvon down that sidewalk between the two rows of townhouses or he walked down RVC which is beyond the two rows of townhouses in the direction of the back entrance to the neighborhood, where he told the dispatcher Trayvon was headed towards, and when he did not find Trayvon, he looped back to the other end of the sidewalk between the two rows of townhouses and started up that sidewalk toward the T intersection where he cut Trayvon off from reaching his destination.
I think he intended to find Trayvon, confront him, and restrain him until the police arrived. I think Trayvon ran from him again when Zimmerman found him while he was talking to his girlfriend DeeDee on his cell phone. This is what one of the witnesses sees in a blur going past her window.
I think he tackled Trayvon up near the T intersection and probably hit the back of his head during the take down. Although it is possible that Trayvon hit him in the nose in self-defense, it is equally as possible that the slide action of the gun struck GZ in the nose when he pulled the trigger given what had to be the close proximity of the gun between GZ and Trayvon. Remember? GZ asked witness #13 whether he had blood on his face.
Trayvon was the person screaming for help and he stopped screaming when Zimmerman shot him, his heart exploded, and both his lungs collapsed. All of the b.s. claimed by GZ that Trayvon said after being shot is just that - B.S. Think about it, according to the witnesses, after GZ shot Trayvon, he was seen straddling Trayvon and then getting up and walking towards the T as he held his hands to his head as if thinking, "oh shit, what have I done?" MO. GZ jumped on top of Trayvon to search for a weapon because he desparately needed Trayvon to have a weapon to support his claim of self-defense. When he did not find a weapon, GZ begins to pace and he starts to construct his b.s. story. He has to come up with something that will support a self-defense claim and saying Trayvon bashed his head into the concrete when his injuries were really acquired during the fall and the nose was broke by the slide action of his gun are the best he can come up with.
Does anyone really think George Zimmerman did not know the names of the streets and the addresses in his own neighborhood, the neighborhood he patrolled as a volunteer neighborhood watch captain? ADHD or ADD does not cause dementia.
As you may recall, back on May 3, 2012, I posted: "Imagine, you are on the phone with the 911 dispatch to report a "suspicious" guy that "looks like he's up to no good or on drugs or something." You describe what he's wearing, where his hands are, that he has a button on his shirt, etc. Detailed information. He then starts circling your vehicle and you are so unnerved by this that you roll up your window (which is down even though its raining), but you don't think to tell this to the dispatch? And if you were so unnerved that you felt the need to roll up your car window, would you then get out of your vehicle to pursue the suspicious person (who may or may not be armed) between the backside of a row of townhomes in the dark? Sound reasonable? Sound believable?"
Ha - note that the investigators had the same questions when interrogating GZ?
Then there is the "therealgeorgezimmerman" website link - which you can see here: http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/04/10/Zimmerman_upsets_OSU.html
The picture shown is what was depicted on GZ's website. This graffiti was, without question, racially motivated and by GZ placing it on his own web page gives at the very least an inference that he supported it.
GZ posted the graffiti displaying the words “Long Live Zimmerman,” which was put on a black cultural center. When NBP got involved, the Martin family denounced the inciting of violence/hate, but at no time did Zimmerman or his family speak out against the white supremacists. In fact, the use of that image shows encouragement, IMO. In addition, he took the quote of "evil only prevails when good men do nothing" for use on his site. This quote shows he believed TM to be “evil.” It astounds me that this man is completely incapable of putting himself in another person’s shoes. Even after he was informed TM was only a teen, staying in that community, and was not responsible for the crime in his neighborhood, he fails to see as TM as anything other than a suspect, criminal, and evil entity. I find the use of the quote very bizarre, actually. The quote seems to go beyond a self-defense claim; it’s a telling quote. He believes he is a hero who did a service to the world. I’ve never been able to get over him using that image and that quote on his site. I hope they can use that in court to show his mindset and overinflated sense of self.
GZ seems to be a very weak little man. He is probably not particularly great at anything, and seeks self-worth from putting himself in positions of power. That’s the vibe I get, at least.
The man in TX who caught his daughter’s predator before/during her attack was capable of showing remorse for taking a life. He called 911 and URGED them to get there FAST. GZ tells the witness not to call, and that he already called. Um, GZ, you called for police, not 911 requesting medical for the person you just shot supposedly in self-defense.
Trayvon was a teen with no criminal record. Sure he had issues at school, but nothing unusual IMO that would lead a jury to believe that while he was strolling along in the rain on the way home, while talking to his girlfriend on his cell, warranted the action taken by GZ. Despite Trayvon's media presence, there are a number of scenarios that the jury can use to understand why Trayvon acted the way he did, i.e., he may have thought GZ was a gang member protecting his turf, he may have thought GZ was a pedofile, or any number of things. On the other hand, having read GZ's media presence, how many scenarios can you come up with to believe that GZ acted reasonably in pursuing and killing Trayvon?
Yeah, I agree Dave - I hope the Judge makes GZ sit his butt in jail until Trial.
Great post, Cherokee. i agree that GZ should sit in jail until trial. And I agree that his intention was to detain Trayvon until the police came. Unfortunately, Trayvon did not meekly submit, but resisted. He didn't know the script of the movie playing in GZ's mind. You make many good points.
Bman, look at this photo of GZ at the bond hearing:
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/28/12462423-george-zimmerman-to-ask-florida-judge-for-release-on-bail-again?lite
He has the same dark circles as he had the day of the re-enactment. I do not believe that he had black eyes that day, as he claimed and his doctor supported. What do you think?
Should be an interesting hearing tomorrow, Dave. I wonder if the judge will follow through on his intention to hear from GZ.
CN what a great analysis. I will have to reread it too as it was very on the mark.I have heard that Travon was also an A/B student. Do we know if that is true as well?
Great write up Dave......Cherokee Native I think you hit the bulls eye wiith your assesment of events.He was persueing Trayvon an had no intention of meeting L E an returning to his truck or looking for an adress he already knew.Thats why he negated it by telling the dispatcher to have L E call him on his cell when they arrived.Something else he never mentioned or forgot in his re enactment.I knoe nothing about guns but dont they have aa safe switch?An how easy would it be to turn a safe switch on or off in the circumstances GZ describes?
The particular gun that GZ owned did not have a manual safety...I don't know anything about guns, but this question has come up previously in other blogs, and a gun person confirmed that there is no safety on it. If I find a link, I will post it.
No Dave, it's not just you... I was listening to the new audio released, and thought how GZ has rage tied up in the ends of his words. I considered doing a video and putting it on my YouTube channel, but thought it so intuitive, so abstract that my subscribers might think I'm nuts.
Then I come here and read your first paragraph...and lmao! There is something about the way George ends things....words, sentences, actions.
Re the break-in GZ starts his written statement with:
....he says the neighbor was at home, which is true. He says that the intruder attacked her and her baby. Now, I looked at the burglary reports, and there was a home-invasion type burglary. I say "type" because in home invasions, perpetrators intend to make contact with occupants. However, in that burglary, the robbers knocked first, seeming to check if anyone was home. When the guys entered through the glass door, the woman locked herself into an upstairs bedroom. She said one of the guys turned the doorknob, but did not say he tried to force the door. She doesn't mention in the report that she had an infant with her, and NEITHER DOES SHE MENTION BEING ATTACKED!
I am not suggesting this wasn't a terrifying experience for this woman, but, it seems George embellishes the real event, making it seem far more dire that it was. He adds an infant. He adds a physical attack against a young mother and infant. The point is that - based on the burglary reports - that's not what happened! As a matter of fact, if this woman and an infant had been physically attacked, police would not have filled out only a burglary report, it would have been an assault..with burglary.
Police seemed to think these guys checked to make sure home was empty first...and did not intend to make contact, but to steal.
This is stuff that can be checked; yet, George has a way of lying about things that are on record.
Any rational person knows this is a virtual impossibility. I don't think most people would make this kind of statement unless they- for many years - lived in a community of 3-10 people...or something like that.
My point is, that this statement doesn't allow for residents to have house-guests, or even visitors without them raising suspicion. The Retreat had many foreclosures. I understand there were many homes unoccupied. In addition, homeowners were renting their property. How could GZ know everybody who lived there at all times?
It's as if GZ want's you to believe he has superhuman abilities. Who would rely on GZ's memory, his ability to log every face, every person who lives in a community?
Note to Dave:
GZ doesn't mention Trayvon stopping and taking shelter from the rain. Trayvon's girlfriend suggests Trayvon had stopped for shelter, and said he was going to start walking because someone was following, or watching him.
I have no reason to disbelieve her. So, why would George lie about that? I think it's because when he gives the reasons he thought Trayvon was suspicious, he says that Trayvon was walking casually and not trying to get out of the rain. IF Trayvon was in fact sheltering when George spotted him, then it puts the lie to his reasons - at least one of them - for thinking the boy was suspicious.
Wow.
I knew it, but still...to see it with my own eyes.
They had nothing! O'Mara et al had nothing but to basically go into court and bullshit their way into another bond.
The judge delaying a decision gives him an opportunity to calmly, politely refuse, from a distance. I just can't see how he can give bond based on what O'Mara presented in court today. It was desperate, and laughable. It didn't convince, or inspire confidence in the attorney's control of the situation, and we know George's personal credibility is shot.
...and then, to ask for bond to be set at the previous amount of 150,000....the gall.... or is that "gall" with a "b"?
Re Witness#9.
It's suggested that she's George's ex, the same one who filed an injunction against him. Well, who says George only had ONE Ex?
Witness#9 left her statement on Feb 28th, 2 days after the shooting. So, she heard about it that fast, and she felt compelled to call! Nobody else could have mentioned to her the race angle...this was too early in the media cycle for her perceptions to be contaminated by those reports. She either heard about, or saw on the news that George had killed a "kid", that the kid was black. (Remember, she said she didn't know who this kid was, or anything else about the case) but she immediately connected the killing to George not liking black people, and his whole family being mean.
Serino flashes a picture to GZ during his interview and asks who is this woman, and what does she have against GZ. George replied it's his Ex...but we can't assume it's the same Ex who filed the injunction. But, I do assume it's the same woman who called SPD. It is probably her story that cause Serino in the early days of the investigation to start taking a closer look at George's possible motives for killing the teenager.
Trust me when i say this....i am in NO WAY defending Zimmerman but are George's sentences ending with a ? just a male version of the 'Valley Girl Speak' which sooo many young people engage in? Granted 28 is a tad old to still be engaging in such an immature speech pattern,but it's a thought.
Good question, Sydney, but wasn't that a girl thing back in the day? George is from Virginia, too, hardly the place for Valley Girl Speak. I never knew of anyone who talked like that other than people seeking reassurance. Of course, I think part of his M.O. is to seem naive and innocent.