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    Once Upon A Time...

    Once upon a time, Pudgie the Bear was skipping through the woods when Trigga the Tree Troll stopped him.

    “Why are you running in my forest?” Trigga demanded, as one of his giant tree limbs stopped Pudgie dead in his tracks.

    “I… I… I have every right to be here,” Pudgie quickly responded. “Why did you stop me?”

    “Because these are my trees. You are robbing my forest of flowers, leaves, grass, mushrooms, berries, roots and nuts!”

    “No. Not me!!! I like honey!” Pudgie cried, but Trigga wouldn’t relent. The young bear tried to fight his way out, knocking chips of bark all over the place. “I’m going to make compost out of you!”

    “No you won’t,” Trigga replied, and just like that, his powerful limb lifted up and came smashing down; knocking the stuffing out of poor Pudgie’s body, sending it flying all over the place. 


    Attorneys Natalie Jackson, center, Benjamin Crump, center right, and Daryl Parks, far right, representing the family of Trayvon Martin sit stoically as George Zimmerman’s not guilty verdict is read in Seminole circuit court in Sanford, Fla. Saturday, July 13, 2013. Zimmerman was found not guilty in second-degree murder for the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin. (Gary W. Green/Orlando Sentinel/Pool)

    After the verdict came last Saturday night and my journey was over, I was tired. From the very first article I wrote; from the very first hearing I attended to the very end, I put in a lot of hours. One of my friends asked me if I would be alright. How would I handle it now that it’s over? Would I be depressed? No, I answered. This is the life of a writer of true crime and courtroom drama. A climbing crescendo, long and winding, coming to a tumultuous climax and compelling completion is what it’s all about. Cut to the end. If we can’t deal with it, we’re in the wrong business. That’s just the way it is. Death becomes a way of life.

    By Sunday morning, most of the civilized world that paid attention to the Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman trial knew the outcome. All that was left to do was to discuss it, but not me. I needed a break. Throughout, there were multitudes of directions each and every one of us had taken — like a hundred road intersection — converging into a massive mess of a traffic jam. Which one of us had the right of way? I don’t know. I still don’t, although a jury of six women decided for us. Yield! Move on or get run over! I suppose I could write a lot about the verdict, but what’s done is done. To perpetuate the story is, to me, unbearable. I won’t let it dog me. 

    The Pavlov’s Dog Affect

    From the beginning of the trial — jury selection or voir dire — we were warned by the Court and deputies to turn off all cell phones or set them to vibrate. This included iPads and other tablets and devices. No noises would be tolerated in courtroom 5D. Even Siri became a serious problem. Initially, we were given two strikes — a warning, then an ejection. That changed after the second or third day when (then) Chief Judge Alan A. Dickey changed the rule. It was one of his final orders before leaving his position, which was part of routine circuit rotation. Judge Nelson wanted it to remain two strikes but, instead, it became one, you’re out, although someone in your news organization could replace you; however, if your replacement made a noise, it would be strike two and your outfit would be banished for good — to the media overflow room you go. 

    Unfortunately, I heard dings, dongs, boing after beep and ring after cell phone song from the gallery. Out went a few journalists and members of the public, until the rest of us were conditioned to be scared to death. That’s a fact. For the remainder of the trial and days beyond, whenever I heard a digital noise of any kind, no matter where I was, I cringed. If I happened to be in the produce section picking out peppers when a cell phone pinged, I panicked. It was either mine or someone else’s and it meant immediate ejection from the courtroom. I called it PDSD — Post Dramatic Stress Disorder. It took some time, but I finally broke free and now feel safe when my phone barks.

    Dog Eat Dog

    This wasn’t my first go ‘round in criminal court. I was credentialed during the Casey Anthony trial. When journalists from all over the country and elsewhere began to come together at the courthouse for the Zimmerman trial, it was nice to see familiar faces again. We couldn’t believe it had been two years, but it was. After friendly hellos, hugs and handshakes, it was all business. Of course, there were plenty of new faces, too, from local news stations and major networks, including cable. 

    It’s the nature of the business to out-scoop each other, so there’s always a competitive edge. There’s eavesdropping and lots of interruptions while talking to someone involved with the trial, as if their questions for Ben Crump seem more important than the rest. Generally, they’re not, but that’s the way it goes. Don’t get me wrong, most of the media reps are very nice, but there are a few egos that get in the way; more so from producers than from on-air personalities. Like what I discovered during the Anthony case, the more famous the personality, the nicer they seemed, and the more intrigued they were with local news people.

    There was an emotional tie inside the courthouse and, most certainly, inside the courtroom. Aside from the actual trial, I mean between journalists. I could clearly sense that, after the strike rule went into effect, plenty of those people sitting on the media side would almost kill to get one more of their own in that opened up seat. They hoped and hoped a cell phone would accidentally go off, although everyone cringed when it did. We all knew it was to be expected. It’s the nature of the beast. Goody! Goody! The problem with me was that there were no replacements. I was the only blogger inside that room with credentials. Some may have resented that fact, but most didn’t. When I was asked who I was with, I proudly said, “Me!” I represented no one but myself.

    Throughout jury selection and the trial, that’s the way it was. When the State rested, everyone’s attitude changed. Gone were the vibes that begged for someone’s phone to go off. There was almost a camaraderie among us. The end was near and we all sensed it. Once again, in a matter of days, we would be going our separate ways. Surely, Mark O’Mara and his defense team wouldn’t take long and we knew that, too. How did we know? Because most of us realized the State did not put on a good case. It was a letdown. Is that all there was? They sure didn’t prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. Therefore, the defense wouldn’t need to put on much of a show. Besides, they had cross-examined the State witnesses very effectively.

    With the last few days of trial at hand, what we had waited for and built up to was going to come down. A verdict was nigh and it would be over. Time to say good bye to those who cared enough. Some just packed up and left. They knew we would meet again at the next big one. Surely, there’s always a Jodi Arias out there to cover.

    On the final day, last Saturday, I could feel the electricity in the entire courthouse. The building was supercharged. I asked Rene Stutzman, who covered most of the case for the Orlando Sentinel, if she could feel it, too. “Yes,” she responded. “Absolutely.”

    I spoke to one of the administrators on a floor not associated with the trial in any way. She also acknowledged that her coworkers felt it, too. It really cut into their levels of concentration. Of course, some of that could have been attributed to protesters, but they didn’t come until the final three days and, even then, it wasn’t that many. No, this was a powerful trial; one that touched the entire area surrounding the courthouse.

    As a final aside, I must say that Judge Nelson was one tough judge. No, I’m not going to humor your thoughts on bias, one way or the other. This has nothing to do with that. Comparing her to Judge Belvin Perry, Jr., Perry was a pussycat. He gave us an hour-and-a-half for lunch each day and there were lots of restaurants in downtown Orlando to choose from. Plenty of time to eat, in other words. Nelson, on the other hand, gave the jury an hour each day and if there happened to be any unfinished court business after they were excused, it cut into our lunch time. That meant less than an hour, generally, with NO restaurants nearby. Well, WaWa. Despite it being cold in the courtroom, I couldn’t bring perishables, so I brought MorningStar Grillers Prime or Chipotle Black Bean veggie burgers on a toasted English muffin. No butter. Plain. I heated them in the lunchroom microwave, where I ate almost every day with a handful of other journalists. Sometimes, we’d talk shop as I nibbled on fresh tomatoes and assorted fruit. Today, there are no more daily events to discuss among my peers, but I am sticking with the diet. Plus salad. Those veggie burgers grew on me, especially the Grillers Prime.

    And in the end…

    After nearly five years of writing about local murders, I hope nothing else like the last two cases comes along again. In the Zimmerman trial, one must understand the residents of Seminole County in order to grasp the verdict. It is a predominantly conservative Republican county made up of a mostly Caucasian population. Gun rights is an important issue. It is not a racist area, although it used to be many, many years ago, but never as much as the surrounding counties. Ultimately, the jury based its decision on the law and how it’s written; not so much on the absolute innocence of Zimmerman, as if he did nothing wrong. In the eyes of the law, Casey Anthony did not murder her daughter, did she? Or was it, more or less, because the prosecution did not prove its case?  

    In the Zimmerman/Martin confrontation, it was the ambiguity of the final moments that cemented the verdict. All you need to do is to look at something else in order to figure it out. Take a DUI (DWI) traffic stop, for instance. If you refuse all tests — field sobriety and breathalyzer — and keep your mouth shut in the back seat of the patrol car, there’s hardly any evidence against you other than the arresting officer’s word. The less evidence a prosecutor has, the less chance of a conviction. That’s what happened here. There just wasn’t enough evidence. Without it, the jury could not convict George Zimmerman — not as presented by Bernie de la Rionda and his team. There wasn’t even enough for a manslaughter conviction, was there?

    On the night of February 26, 2012, something horrible took place. Was it poor judgement or bad timing, perhaps? Was it both? Had Martin arrived at the Retreat at Twin Lakes only five minutes earlier, Zimmerman would have gone on to Target. Had Zimmerman only left the Retreat five minutes earlier, Martin would have walked safely home to watch the NBA All-Star Game. Who started it and who ended it can and will be argued about for years to come. I formed my own opinion, but I choose to move on now. A verdict has been rendered. Let the rest of the media hound on it. They get richer and richer off the story and I never made a dime. In the end, trust me, Trayvon Martin did not die for naught.

    As for me, what does my future hold? I may re-stuff Pudgie the Bear and write fiction. Yup, you know… Once upon a time, we had characters like the Lone Ranger. In those days, good guys always wore white and bad guys never got away.

    George Zimmerman is congratulated by his defense team after being found not guilty, on the 25th day of Zimmerman’s trial at the Seminole County Criminal Justice Center, in Sanford, Fla., Saturday, July 13, 2013. (Joe Burbank/Orlando Sentinel/POOL)

    Cross-posted on the DAILY KOS






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    Thanks for being our blogger on the inside. I followed you in the CA Murder Trial and here on this Zimmerman murder trial as well. Thank you for representing your blog readers. I may not always agree with you but I know you are writing what you think is factual and fair.
    Signed by
    cocotater, Mother of a journalism professor @ UNC
    I am very picky about my reporters Mr Marinade, and I thank you for hanging in there for us. Salute.

    Thank you very much, cocotater. I believe it's very important that you (and everyone else) formulate your own opinion and openly discuss it with me and everyone else. Certainly, in a case like this, there are tons of opinions from many directions.. What's best is to respect one another and leave the verbal boxing gloves at home, in the closet. You have no problem with respect because you give it and deserve it.

    I really appreciate your compliment regarding my work. Once I pick up a project, I don't like to quit, so you can expect to see me in the future - reporting on something. Meanwhile, all my best to you and your son. Please give him my best!

    July 20, 2013 | Unregistered Commentercocotater

    It seems you are disappointed in the justice system. The opening paragraphs say it all. I thought of all the writers, you would be "Non Biased" in your opinion. Sadly, it's a media run world and when the media doesn't want the outcome to be the one THEY wanted then it's wrong. Sorry Dave. I TRULY thought your brain would overrule your heart. The LAW of Florida is what was on trial, NOT whether it was murder or not. It WASN'T a murder trial.......or did the media want it to be? I believe in our judicial system. I was one of a handful of our classmates who almost died defending our Constitution and the Laws of individual States. I feel slapped around like the proverbial Red Headed Stepchild now. I defended bashers of law and the twisters who aren't happy when they get their own way. I noticed each comment is subject to censorship.......... I hope this one gets through the process.

    July 20, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterJohn Balek

    Dave I thought the State did more than enough to convict the murdering stalking raceist P O S.

    Could they have done more yes .

    Would if have made a difference no.

    The jurours were never going to convict the murderer as they had already convicted the VICTIM.

    Americans an not just Floridians ought o feel shame an embarresement.

    As once again like the oj verdict the CAYLEE Travesty verdict an now this abuslute travesty of a verdict.

    Your citizents have proved themsels unworthy of trust when justice is on the line.

    The higher the profile case the more chance the jury will return a perverse verdict just because they can an could an feel like they should.

    Just as the murder felt he cold kill a BLACK CHILD with impunity

    An was proved right twice over

    First the police an a lazy assed prosecuter gave him a pass

    An then a jury gave him another pass.

    The world is not in shock at this verdict after all it America

    The land of the the free.unlees your a minorite.

    For Shame.

    Silver Lineing is that millions perhaps billions now know the name of TRAVON MARTIN..

    Far more than would have heard had justice been sered.

    The first night if the Murderer had been arrested a charged this would have ben a few coloum inches if that.

    Instead it turned into a huge Natinal Story.

    Likewise if justice had returned a just verdict of murder two then hardly anyone worldwide would have heard of this travesty.

    But now people I know in the UK Taxi drivers people in pubs an resteraunts whom knew nothing of this case

    Are asking me questions an talking about Trayvon

    An going home to google an research this story.

    So S P D Thought they could cover up an make it go away.

    An now America thinks it can unleash a bunch of raceist bitches on the jury an it will go away no way.

    People are always pissed at America smug hollier than thou attitude
    Grea.tes country in the worl blah blah blah.

    The out an out polerisatin that exposed the raceset majorty in your country since the election of a mixed race president has sent shockwaves round the word

    America is set to end up a pariah state like South Africa was dureinf Ahpertide/

    A system that America also oppersted .

    Seprete bathrooms certain seating on buses ect.

    The lanet realises now that has never gone away.
    The K K K don't even have to cover the faces in white masks now as it openly acceptable to be raceist.

    Sanctions boycotts exclusion from sporting events all this an more should be levied against a Country that endorces the Murder of A CHILD because he is seen as inferior an expendable.

    An besides his Parents got oney didn't they should be glad they even got that

    An they have the audacity to want justice.

    Nah no jussctice in Merica just us.

    Thanks for attending Dave an thanks for all you do for those whom no longer have a voice.

    TRAYVON Des though an his voice is roaring around the world along with those held illegally in Quntanomo Bay wich your President pledgedto close in his first day in office dureing his first term.


    America is a totalarian Facist state an you have the power at your finger tips to bring it down.

    The innerweb akes politians an such a nonentity no longer required the word is truly now a village with instantaneous global contact.

    The Arab Spring showed us in the West the true power of the internet.

    Its time to light a firte under thease bastard politricks an absurd poltians

    An have
    A GLOBAL Awakening cast of the shackles of buracracy an cry FREEDOM

    Enopugh is Enough.

    Tray was BE TRAYED but his death will never be in vain because the pain he felt has reverberated around the world an shown Merica in its true light.

    July 20, 2013 | Registered Commenterecossie possie

    Dave~~thank you for the great article. I can definitely see you writing fiction as you have a great imagination. I think most of us wish this case had all been a fairy tale but sadly one life was lost, many hearts were broken and another life will never be the same. We cannot go back and undo the past but we sure as hell can strive to make the future better.

    I sat on the fence for the biggest part before the trial got under way. I certainly did not win any popularity contests and still don't for that matter. "To thine own self be true." My opinions came from within and I did not relate what I felt others wanted to hear and for that reason, I became silent as I found I was beating the side of a brick wall while dodging the spit balls.

    I watched every bit of the trial from my vantage point in front of a monitor. John Guy's opening statement put me in mind of Baez. Loud profanity can really be an attention getter but it also can be a turn off. I believe the 'F' word is in the British dictionary so no shiocker there. Some thought that Guy could win over the hearts of the jurors because he was nice looking and sounded like Kevin Costner. Guy told the jurors to look deep within their hearts in his closing...UH UH..that goes against the jury instructions. "Do not base your decision on emotions."

    more to come...

    July 20, 2013 | Registered CommenterSnoopySleuth

    Someone mentioned previously in here that De La Rionda could not speak and think at the same time, maybe not in those exact words but to which I agree. He was feisty alright and reminded me of Jane Velez, the screamer. The prosecution played right into the hands of the defense and enabled the defense to not put Z on the stand. The state nicely did that for them with the witnesses and evidence they introduced. O'Mara and West turned state witnesses into defense witnesses.

    I tried to view the trial from a juror's perspective...not easy to shut out a lot of info I was privy to. As the trial neared the end, I wanted a not guilty verdict but did not figure I would have a prayer in hearing it announced. From the evidence presented, I am in total agreement with the jury's decision.

    Maybe down deep in my subconscious, I wanted O'Mara to win this case so fess up to a tad of bias in that respect. I felt Angela Corey overcharged Z and frankly, I just don't like what I have seen of her. She was interviewed by Vinnie and called Z a murderer...this was post verdict...that speaks volumes.

    Where did the state find that medical examiner who had amnesia??

    July 20, 2013 | Registered CommenterSnoopySleuth

    Women are very perceptive. I wonder if they noticed how biased Judge Nelson was. We got to see it when the jury was not present. O'Mara and West tried this case with their hands tied behind their back. I am in hopes that O'Mara will go forth with the sanctions against the state and not let Debra slide their motion under the rug.

    During the interview, Vinnie asked Corey and De La Rionda to describe Judge Nelson in one word. Does it surprise you that in unison, they both responded AWESOME?? Surprise! Surprise!

    July 20, 2013 | Registered CommenterSnoopySleuth

    Dave, I love how you added a fictional story about Pudgie The Bear. I want to hear more about Pudgie! You brought me back to my childhood again. Thank You for the nice feeling.

    July 21, 2013 | Registered CommenterMary Jo

    I've thought about the night that Trayvon was gunned down quite a bit. I believe that Zimmerman did continue to pursue Trayvon, he sounded ike he was running when speaking with the 911 dispatcher, and had his gun pulled out when he met up with him. Trayvon was fighting for his life, screamed, and screamed, and screamed again for help. According to witnesses he was on top of Zimmerman beating on him (who wouldn't fight for their life) but unfortunately Zimmerman was able to point that gun against Trayvon's chest and pull the trigger.....the screaming stopped, Zimmerman stood up and reholstered his gun, etc, etc. Zimmerman says it was God's plan.

    July 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTracy

    Snoopy, Snoopy, Snoopy, finally, someone from my planet!! I had to give up reading about this case for fear of being labeled a racist, of which I am not.
    You brought brought up so many points that most people either did not hear or want to hear. In the interview with the press after the trial I nearly lost my cookies when Ms. Corey called GZ a murderer!!! It struck me as pandering to the press and public. I believe the only thing that bothered her is that the prosecution lost, and they wanted to have a "patsy" go down.
    So again, thank you for the voice of reason.
    AND, thank you for posting the interview of Charles Barkley! He is my new Hero!!!
    Quite frankly, I thought would not make it thru the first comment.

    July 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterCarole P

    To tune of jingle bells .

    Jungle Yells Jungle YELLS
    Trayvon didn’t say.
    Yo Homie a problem is comeing your way

    Jungle YELLS Jungle Yells
    Zimmerman did say fists were comeing his way
    An he pulled out his gun an shot Tracys SON

    Because he thought he was TRAVONS PRAY


    Running past the T a victim he did see an he showed no mercy he just let him plea an plea.
    For once he passed the T he was in scary terrorty the police an bells would come
    An see him with a gun so

    Jungle Yells Jungle Yells Jungle all the way the man in blue will not be true if your victim was a stray

    Jungle yells justice smells Trayvon was slayed the foggages gun
    was the one thing that got him away..
    Jungle Yells Jungle Yells aN WARRIOR MENTALITY.

    PS DaveI M O your if not the best one of the top five crime writters /bloggers out of America your articles are like a drop of gold.
    An yet you get so little traffic at times
    I know you write an do what you do not for glory or regognition.

    But you fucking deserve some man
    An I cant understand why retard sites get huge numbers of comments an a genuine genius like you gets so low.

    Only in America I suppose a phyce that with each passing day I realise theres a mind set I neither want to understand.

    Because it would be to my detriment not my benefit.

    Thank God for clarions of decency such as your self .

    That proves not all Americans are demented bigoted small minded eejits.

    Love you Bro.

    July 21, 2013 | Registered Commenterecossie possie

    Foggage is auld Scots for a rugh groth of winter grass sparce.

    An I refer to zimmeerman thus.

    As in the UK a grass is also a ploce Informer as in Whispering Grass.

    An grass is green the colour of envey

    An grass is where he left his victim face down in the grass.

    In febury winter to me an hence winter grasss foggage

    Definition of FOGGAGE

    : a second growth of grass

    Origin of FOGGAGE

    Scots, from Middle English (Scots) fogage, from Medieval Latin fogagium, from Middle English fogge second growth of grass (probably of Scandinavian origin; akin to Norwegian fogg long grass on damp ground) + Medieval Latin -agium -age
    First Known Use: 1775

    July 21, 2013 | Registered Commenterecossie possie

    Carole P~~thank you. Trust me, it is not often I ever receive a compliment in here. lol If more people would take off their rose colored glasses and weigh the evidence, they may reach a reasonable conclusion.
    Speculation is just a figment on one's imagination. It is only what they want to believe and not what really took place.

    I am not 100% sure of what was going through Z's mind or Trayvon's that night. A jury made their decision and I agree with it.

    I believe that Zimmerman was being used as a scapegoat. When you listen to Angela Corey, she sounds so artificial. I watched her facial expressions when she sat in the courtroom during the trial. At times De La Rionda put me in mind of Jeff Ashton with the occasional smirks. I think both Angela and Bernie should lick their wounds and shut the hell up instead of going on the media and acting like spoiled brats.

    July 21, 2013 | Registered CommenterSnoopySleuth

    To Ecossie Possie. I've been reading your posts for a few years now and must say at the beginning I couldn't follow what you were saying, or make sense of the words you spoke. Initially I thought you might be dyslexic (which is not unusual), then I figured out you were speaking in an unfamiliar Scottish dialect, maybe Orkney?

    Whatever, I enjoy reading what you have to say and find myself agreeing with your take on things. I have to slowly read your words to decipher them, but it's always worth it. You are a wise man or woman.

    July 21, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterTracy

    figment *of one's imagination...

    Just an after thought... Corey really irked me when she did not let this case go before a grand jury. Didn't she have the presser (campaign speech) re Z's arrest for Murder 2 just days before her upcoming election??

    July 21, 2013 | Registered CommenterSnoopySleuth

    Ben Kruidbos, Corey's former director of information technology, was fired after testifying at a pre-trial hearing on June 6 that prosecutors failed to turn over potentially embarrassing evidence extracted from Martin's cell phone to the defense, as required by evidence-sharing laws.
    "We will be filing a whistleblower action in (Florida's Fourth Judicial District) Circuit Court," said Kruidbos' attorney Wesley White, himself a former prosecutor who was hired by Corey but resigned in December because he disagreed with her prosecutorial priorities. He said the suit will be filed within the next 30 days.

    More here...

    Zimmerman prosecutor Angela Corey may face a reckoning

    July 22, 2013 | Registered CommenterSnoopySleuth

    another Thank you from me! That article about Ms. Corey is very very interesting. It is also scary that she can not be fired and that she has so much power. I hope that the sanctions against the prosecution and her office will result in some kind of swift kick into her ample rump!

    Can you please explain to me, a mere American, what the hell a 'totalarian Facist state" is? And I did not realize that our country "endorces the Murder of A CHILD because he is seen as inferior an expendable." To me, a proud American, these are fighting words!!

    I swore off becoming so entrenched in trials after getting the verdict for Casey A as being innocent, or should I say, Not guilty!! And then along comes Jodi Arias to get me back to watching and reading about the trial and the evidence. That one turned out the only way it could, but when GZ's trial came up I was again on point. i began reading about this "racist cop wannabe" and how he murdered a mere child with accompanying photos of a boy that looked like he was 12 years old.

    Well, I have to get some work done and I need to now go and try to get my foot out of my mouth!!

    July 22, 2013 | Unregistered CommenterCarole P

    Dave, Thank you for getting up so early and moving on down to court, for giving so generously of yourself and your feedback minute to minute to friends and public. Your first few words of this post "Once Upon A Time" says it all. It is over! I admire your diligence, your adherence to your personal values, your strength and class in all you bring forth. Thank YOU!

    July 22, 2013 | Registered CommenterNew Puppy

    God forbid if the media mentions the following as their ratings may go down.

    George Zimmerman Rescued A Family Of 4 From An Overturned Truck

    July 22, 2013 | Registered CommenterSnoopySleuth

    Thanks Tracy I do have dyslexia I have a form known as letter blindness .

    Words are nae problem but individual letters are like an alien writing or heiroglphpics

    In not very wise either I wish I were .

    Anyhoo if Dave can make this link work or just paste it in your browser.

    A very interesting an I M O convinceing article on why Trayvon was abandoned a second time by justice...

    PS Im from Edinburgh bit spent summers in Kirkwell Capital of the Orkneys as a child.

    One of the most beutifull an mysticall places on Earth

    Even camped on the remains of the oldesrt human stone house 9 thousand years old .

    Five thousand years b4 the pyramids.

    August 9, 2013 | Registered Commenterecossie possie

    Sorry wrong article above here is correct one

    August 9, 2013 | Registered Commenterecossie possie

    ecossie possie, I have enjoyed reading the article you suggest. Clearly the end of this trial has left sinkholes in the prosecution. Being far from gathering information and properly analyzing to the finest my gut has been that Bernie De La Ronda, for some reason gave it up before starting. Why? I don't know and only care about the part that Trayvon Martin did not receive justice for his life taken by one George Zimmerman. So many point finger at Florida and Florida Law, why just Florida when injustice is a way of life these days. I noticed you commented, and I know what it feels like to do so and find everyone has gone fishing for better catch. Anyway, as far as I can tell here and elsewhere this case closed by jury acquittal. Just wanted to let you know someone read your input. Thank you

    August 9, 2013 | Registered CommenterNew Puppy

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