Casey Anthony: Not Very Appealing, Part 1
Tuesday, January 8, 2013 at 11:04AM Casey’s appeal will be heard today. I will expound on that after it unfolds. First, here’s a little background music to set the mood…
I guess most of you know by now that Casey lives in a gated community in Cape Canaveral. If you know the location; fine, but I’m not going to disclose it here. There are too many people living there and they don’t need an onslaught of visitors, including media-types and hostile folks out to get her.
For certain, she has been spotted around town. I know people in that neighborhood; some so well that I won’t even discuss them — and virtually across the street from her. I will tell you what I do know about her, though, before I go into today’s appeal and what I wrote years ago that led up to this motion; the gist, of which, is whether she was Mirandized while being questioned, whether she was legally under arrest when placed in the back of a police vehicle the night of July 15, 2008, and whether the four misdemeanor convictions for lying to law enforcement should be considered double jeopardy. In other words, were four charges too many? Could they have been condensed into one since they were, virtually, one and the same?
Casey likes the Cape Canaveral neighborhood and the surrounding area. She loves the bars at the port, where giant cruise ships sail. They are a sight to behold. She’s always enjoyed that side of Central Florida and I can’t say I blame her. For sure, if you’ve never been up close to a cruise ship or watched one leave port while sitting on an outside deck sipping a cold drink, munching on a fresh grouper sandwich or oysters on the half shell, you’re missing something. Besides, don’t cruises run in her family?
She’s been spotted out and about, alright, but she never looks anyone in the eye. Never. That’s why a lot of people question whether it’s her or not. They’re pretty sure, but they’re not sure. During the day, there’s hardly a time that she doesn’t wear her big sunglasses. To me, that’s a giveaway. Most of the time, she wears wigs. That helps keep her from being identified.
Where she lives, she walks her pet. A maintenance man offers up treats to all the neighborhood dogs, but wonders why this particular woman thanks him while looking askance; her face emotionless. Never in the eyes. No smile, but gracious just the same.
In order to move into the place where she lives, she needed help. This is where it gets quite interesting. Her father, George, is seen all the time. He never hides from view. He’s the one who got her in. She’s got a three-month lease with an option for three more.
On the day of the final hearing before the trial, George took the stand. Jose Baez asked him if he’d be willing to lie for Casey in order to save her life. He said yes. Jose asked him one more time and he responded with a resounding YES, heard loud and clear throughout the courtroom. I know; I was there.
When George was accused, during Baez’s opening statement, of sexually molesting his daughter since childhood, I immediately reminded myself of the words spoken by him only a month or so earlier. Did I really believe George had ever touched Casey improperly? No, of course not. For the most part, no one did. However, did I think there was a (better than) good possibility that the State had been set up? That he was the fall guy, willing to allow it in order to save his daughter from conviction and a possible sentence of death? You’d better believe it! They are a family of liars and the record is clear on that matter, in my opinion. There is no defamation here. No libel or anything else. I firmly believe George swallowed that bitter pill because it was the only thing — a very desperate move — that would help assure his daughter’s acquittal. He set up the defense by turning her into the real victim. This was a brilliant move because, in the end, no one would brand him an incestuous child molester. Who, in all reality, would really believe it? It was a win/win scenario! Do I know this to be true? No, of course not, but this is what I’ve been told, considered hearsay in a court of law.
George has been spending an awful lot of time in Cape Canaveral, according to witnesses willing to speak publicly. He was the force behind her getting into the community where she lives. That comes from inside. He dotes over his daughter like a mother hen. (Let’s not go into how henpecked he is.) He makes sure she is safe. Does this sound anything like a father scorned? One who was maligned so wretchedly by his ingrate daughter?
Let’s say this. During the Christmas holiday season, she left her safe harbor because news crews were parked outside. That’s been going on months now. She went to a condo down the road in Cocoa Beach; a condo owned by snowbirds who are close personal friends of the Anthonys. Does this sound anything like a broken family set apart by the death of their beloved granddaughter? No, but in order to understand that dynamic, one must remember that mother and father still believe the loss was a giant accident; that daughter would never do such a heinous thing of which she had been charged. In the end, the court proved it. They had been right all along, but had they? That no longer matters. In the end, the family seems whole again; over the ordeal that lasted for years, ripping at their souls. Today, George goes happily about his business of being a father, fulfilling the pledge he made under oath on the final hearing before his daughter’s trial. Meanwhile, those persnickety TV trucks are always lurking. In my opinion, they need to leave her alone. Not out of concern for her, mind you, but for the safety of the residents of her community — the people who never invited her in, but must live with her. They could fall victim if enough people with bad ideas try to find her.
When Casey was returning to the condo, a local TV station’s trucks had been laying in wait; ready to pounce. They relentlessly pursued her every step of the way. She called 911 and tried to shake them, to no avail. As the private gate to the community opened for her to enter, the truck followed her in. So did a police car or two, and that was the last she saw of them. No one from the unnamed station reported that incident, nor has there been anything new to report from anyone else. Most people are tight-lipped. No one pays much attention to her in and out of the small world where she resides, seemingly, far from harm.
If I were you and since I am me, I would proffer this advice: Leave her the hell alone. She may be out of jail, but she will never escape the prison she has placed herself in. Just the other day, someone saw her up close and personal; face-to-face, in other words. A rare sight indeed! She wasn’t wearing her signature sunglasses. Caught off guard! What this person told me was sad, but I felt no sympathy. Casey’s eyes were void. Looking into them, there was nothing but emptiness and a total lack of human emotion; dull and dead. As if she has no soul.
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Reader Comments (61)
I agree - leave her alone. If her eyes are the window to her soul, perhaps it was removed some time ago, before Caylee went missing. In any case, her life as she used to live it is over and that is good enough for me.
Dave, great post! From the beginning I knew her parents were lying for her, I love my daughter, she's my heart. Would I lie on the stand? Maybe? Being honest here. But lying to save her life after she took my grandchild. Never! I also believe the paparazzi should leave her alone. Leave her alone in her own hell. Oh that's right, she's not living in hell, she's in a gated community that is both beautiful and peaceful. The best I can hope for is that she's not peaceful. I don't wish her harm, but I do hope she's one day going to be held responsible. Most definitely in the after life. Caylee would be the same age as my grandson. Oh how Cindy and George are missing out on the love, kisses, and adorable things kids this age say and do. I don't feel sorry for them at all!
Good followup Dave. This case though still haunts me and I know it does others. Keep up the good work.
Hi, Dave -
thanks so for this article! And while you make very excellent points with which I generally agree, I do disagree with you about two things:
1) I find it hard to believe that the other owners within the gated community can do nothing about having this child killer in their midst. I had always heard that one of the negatives about buying a place in a gated community was the inability to sublease to anyone you wanted.
2) You are a better Christian than I. Casey is in a prison cell all of her own making - without bars - precisely because people don't leave her alone. How do you get beyond the death and unbealievable horrendous disposal of her baby? She thought she was above the law - and then she used the "luck" that the tropical storm literally "deep-sixed" Caylee's body so that no forensic evidence could be gleaned. It was obvious that she ENJOYED the trial and being on TV, her notoriety was a great outcome ..and she has enjoyed flaunting it. She knows precisely why she is hated and hse has done nothing to rehabilitate hereslf. Granted with parents like Cindy and George ...dysfunctional takes on mythic proportions. But make no mistake, Casey passed those two nuts on the highway of infamy in the fast lane.
Additionally, another concern is that the money that is "funding" all of this is the Dr. Phil money that was taken from the Caylee Two Fund ..That fund was nothing more than a smoke screen to get money for their interview. Casey's check cashing incident was not the only "fraud" in that family.
Casey deserves no pity, and for those who wish to dog her every foot step ..go ahead then ....that's the only way her infamy will continue. She's like a later-day Icarus ...can't stay away from the sun that melts the wax that fastened his wings .....
Lastly: what are those grifters going to do when the Dr. Phil money runs out???
Thanks for considering my input!
Clearly Casey has no life - NO LIFE! Empty, void, as though if a small door on her body was opened there would be nothing but a black hole. I agree with others, leave her alone, leave the neighborhood alone. The camera trucks are for a dollar made on getting her picture any way they can but that is not ever going to accommodate justice for Caylee. Imo George did agree wholeheartedly to take the position in court as he did, for his daughter. Somehow maybe he feels he should be blamed, haven't read where he actually uttered such words, but as Dave has written, his attention to her safety and care, says a lot, how painful it must be for him. I never liked George, only knowing of him on paper and in the news, but to be willing to lay down his own Soul for "No Soul" says more than can be explained other than parent love. Obviously, Casey did not have any more Soul at the time Caylee died than what is mentioned here today. There is a lot to think about in this particular murder, all murders in some way, somehow are committed by those who have no living Soul or some tinge of evil has imbedded itself. This is not a far stretch from any of us who do our little daily nips and neglects and watch other people hurt, while quietly enjoying it to a degree because of our own daily emotions over hurtful exposures, usually felt to be greater than and can be so reasoned for not making amends, pridefully no apologies no forgiveness. George was undoubtedly terribly affected by Caylee's death, who knows if he had any hand in the way Caylee was disposed of to try and save Casey. it might have flashed to him, there is no life in Caylee to save, I have to concentrate on Casey, I'm sure anyone being in LE know a few ways to....(cover up) I believe, even if he absolutely is innocent in every way that he still feels responsibility and this is the only way he can work on that feeling, by helping and protecting Casey as well as he can. This does not say to me that he just didn't care about Caylee, I don't believe that for one minute. Still there is a slight favor, Casey, his own! Caylee, no father? George Zimmerman is so afraid of physical harm for killing a young teenager needs to be protected from the "crowds" (imagining himself celebrity) wanting his autograph. George could well be a target because of the animosity on Casey's acquittal and must feel if it happens to him, let it happen.
I like seeing this post up, we all fed off this case, so anytime there is any remark to show that in some way Caylee is being Spiritually justified by seeing the emptiness in Casey, it helps, just a little. What is always my question, where did that emptiness originate from? From how far back or did it start, or was it a later onset?
Thank you Dave , for this post. There have been many more babies, children taken in such grossly unforgivable ways, since Caylee, so let us not forget, there will be more, and quite frankly I think our legal system is continuously finding new loopholes that keep the aggressors free while an innocent dies. Is it possible the old hanging tree, if brought back, would that put enough fear in the Soulless that some would stop. Personally, I doubt it.
leave her alone? did she leave Caylee alone? why would she be aloud to have peace of mind after murdering her own child?
people in that community are hypocrites and are protecting her!
One day hopefully Caylee will have justice and her mother will be found being eating up by animal;s in a swamp a block away from her dangerous parents house!
justice for Caylee!!!! The hell with KC! Whos cares about her...we want JUSTICE for Caylee and the only way is to have her mother pay for what she did!
Thank you, thank you - Dave.
My goodness Dave this is a great article,and great comments too. I have always said KC is not now nor will she ever be free,as we know freedom. She is still an uneducated,unemployed loser. She will never know the love of a good,honest man,or have a well adjusted family life with wonderful loving friends.She wasn't raised that way. She was never held accountable for any wrongdoing,even stealing from her brother before she started stealing from other family members and friends. A lazy cheating father,a self centered mother trying to convince people,especially herself that they had a normal happy life. Her upbring is not,by any means an excuse for what she has become,many are raised in abusive homes,me included, and don't become a criminal. KC murdered Caylee but she had become a conscious liar and thief long before that.
I personally feel some sorrow for KC,what a sad lost and lonely life,age will come,parents will be gone or too infirmed to care for her well being. If she or any of the A's truly believe in God they better remember;
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.
Gal. 6: 7,8
Thanks Dave for another Brilliant! post Monsur With thease CarteDorr Truffles you are realy spoiling us
Notice the dead shark like eyes no soul no emotion trunkmom showed us .This Jodi Arrisktoanyman has the same dead non tear produceing eyes..
ps Love your new banner very posh gone all Finaceial Times on us.....
Excellent Dave just what I would expect from you ! This article turns my stomach( the contents not the author) knowing George is again kissing her arse as usual. You know this is and was part of her problem, the pedestal they have placed her on is why she feels so entitled to rid herself of her child then walk away as if it was a small infraction. I use to feel sorry for George, not after reading this, he deserves anything he gets if he continues to support this felon murderess. I dont care if it is his child. No wonder poor Caylee is gone she didnt stand a chance in that pathetic money hungry
wretched family.
Hey maybe they are in love- I think im going to be sick :-/
Dave~~with all her enablers, how could Casey be anything less than what she turned out to be?
I felt all along that George went along with the incest, drowning and all the rest. The Anthonys all deserved Oscars for their performance in the courtroom. I think Lee Anthony helped to mastermind their ploy and I do believe Jeff Ashton would agree with me.
Thanks for this post. Did they reach a decision today? The Arias trial is taking up most of my time.
I'm with the "leave her alone" crowd. Personally I think she revels in the attention. After all bad attention is attention. She knows what she did and she's living a life sentence if you can call it that. Her parents can't be there in the darkest part of the night when she's just dropping off to sleep and her conscience, if she has one rears its head.
Her parents helping her out is no surprise to me either. That's exactly what they've been doing all along. I'd certainly like to know how they're getting money to live on. I hope those 3 judges uphold the decisions made and the sentences handed down for the lying and bad checks. After all she should be accountable for something. I get the feeling she is trying to get the lying bit off of her record because of the lawsuits (Texas Equasearch comes to mind) and money owed to the county for their effort to find Caylee.
I'd like to see a complete boycott of her. If a book comes out written by her it should sell not one copy. As for the Anthony household it looks life has returned to their previous routine, just in another city. And it looks like her lawyers are chosing her as their pro bono case for 2013.
Awesome article Dave, I wholeheartedly agree with everything everyone has expressed except for one item. I don't believe we should leave her or anyone in the family alone. I think they should always, till the end of time, breathing down their necks. I think they should forever live in fear, fear of the unknown. They should always have to sleep with one eye open. There is a lunatic out there just waiting to do to her, what she did to her daughter. It's proven every day that it will happen. I will be able to sleep better then, knowing justice did prevail.
Dave~~do you know if there has been any sightings of Lee and/or Mallory around Casey's? If Mallory has a baby she best run for the hills especially if Cindy and George pay attention to the child. Narcissists do not change. Attention is like a drug to them and as addictive as heroin.
Thank you for this great work, Dave, but- H#ll NO to leaving her alone! When she's in her little community, FINE- for their sake only; the moment the noxious, lying, evil Baby-Killing Skank leaves her confines I hope she is HOUNDED from one end of town to the other. Let the lousy selfish b&tch be haunted for all eternity by memories of her killing of "the little snothead" (her words, not mine), and the realization that this is exactly why she can never leave her little suburban purgatory. There really should be some consequences for utterly depraved deeds and a pile of sins- and this little Skank racked up a thousand such.
Karen C~~I echo everything you just stated. Bravo!
Well, I'm sorry but Father's and Mother's Day must be really, really awkward... and SHOULD be!
Karen C~~I wonder if George still carries around his Bible or if Cindy reads hers. Hypocrites are worse than atheistss. I would like to see a lightning bolt sent down from above while they are sitting in the sun having iced tea and knock them all to the ground. Then a cloudburst and a deep voice from above saying, "drown in Caylee's tears." It would scare them into confession.
Very nice image- wish it would come true. And how do they interpret the last info regarding the searches THAT DAY? Does nothing penetrate? They'd probably ignore God, too.
I don't believe it all comes entirely from the way a child is raised, if it did there would be many many more Caseys! There are a lot of families who indulge theirs more than the Anthonys and no such acts happen.
Casey called 911 LOL You know I wish they had told her just to call back in lets say...31 days LOL
Casey is not miserable in the least bit. She is enjoying being doted on and the attention to boot. Not to mention that she is probably loving the cat and mouse game with the public. As well as her sperm/egg donor(s). (Make no mistake: they love the attention just as much as the killer.)
Nope. Their hell will come when they don't conjure up any public attention or can make any additional monies off of Caylee. God forbid; I can't help but wonder what the killer will be like after her parents pass away. Who will prop her up?
The good news is: the public has been warned about this physopathic gypcian. Shame on the person who gets taken by her and her band of gypsies.
Dave~when I said, with all her enablers, how could Casey be anything less than what she turned out to be?
For the record, I was discussing Casey and not all children in general!!
I raised three girls and am proud to say they turned out just fine. A child can be nurtured and raised in a lovingly home with the proper parental supervision and turn out to be monsters aka Casey.
Dave, you are so correct. George was part of the setup. The whole Anthony family is demented. As for Casey getting away with lying to the police………………….She will cheat the justice system once again. The money from the Dr. Phil show is being used to help Casey live a comfortable life. However she will never be free from the horrible crime she committed. Frankly no one cares about her; she had her 15 minutes of infamous tabloid fame. The only news about her that would be of interest to most people is… Casey Anthony is back in jail where she belongs.
Believing Casey's intent and carried out plan to murder her daughter Caylee Marie is something I can not prove to myself, ever. I detest the thought that she could do such an act, however, Casey is not the only to have fallen, and not so much is said about all the others. Most of course, personally, I can not name.
I do know the desire to witness some horror happening to Casey and or her family is not inviting to me and will never cure what I feel about a child having been destroyed as Caylee was, because that desire is to TRY and satisfy only MY feelings, it won't, it never can because this is something that belongs to Caylee herself, whether her Spirit wants ME to want done to Casey, as was done to her. Whether Caylee wants me to act and say and do for her what I feel SHE deserves and her mother deserves. I can not witness something that I think is to be satisfaction for Caylee, when it is only for myself. I can not rationalize on my knees while having desire in my heart in prayer for bad to happen to the Anthonys. If the GOD that I have learned of is not greater than I, if HE does not act the way I think my prayer should be answered then I am trying to be greater than HE! Justice for Caylee went through the legal process, of course most are not happy with the outcome, and I am not trying to say "it was God's will", the acquittal. Again, I can never expect or would ever have personal satisfaction by participating or wanting something dreadful and considered illegal by law to happen on Caylee's behalf and certainly not for MY revenge on Caylee's behalf, and doubt Caylee, if she could speak to me, would want me to.
This article is bull.
Dave~~who did Caylee have as a voice after her heinous death except, her great grandmother, Shirley Pleasea, her great uncle Rick, the Grunds, the prosecution and us, all the people who followed this case with the exception of a few who will remain nameless?
Maybe Caylee had her Nana for a short awhile until Cindy saw all the $$$'s that could be realized. Cindy was more concerned with keeping up the 'All American Image' and turned a blind eye to what was happening in her family. Being a nurse, why didn't Cindy get professional help for Casey. Cindy went to counselling and when she was told that she should throw Casey out of the house, she quit going. Why didn't Cindy relentlessly pursue getting custody of Caylee? Cindy took an oath in the courtroom and put emphasis on "so help me God." I do not believe the Almighty aided and abetted Cindy to lie on the stand.
Then we have her spineless grandpa, JoJo who was not man enough to stand up to his wife when it came to making Casey atone for lying, stealing and bedding every man she could use for her own satisfaction. George was nothing but a leach, a bull headed man who attacked his own father, a gambler, an adulterer, and most of all, a liar.
He couldn't hold down a steady job and allowed himself to be led around on a leash by his wife who happened to be the bread winner in the family. Does he ever gaze up at the stars and have any regrets or is he too busy catering to his murderess daughter?
Next comes 'laughing' Lee Anthony. If clues were shoes, he would be barefoot. He took the witness stand and put on a stellar performance. He was not invited to a baby shower or some such event and sobbed and whined on the stand. A little cayenne pepper will cause the eyes to redden immediately when you pinch some of it in the corners of your eyes. Lee reached up and pinched at both sides of his nose right next to his eyes and lo and behold the waterworks started. It may not have been cayenne but something similar. The Anthony went to rehearsals weeks before they took the stand. No doubt Casey and Baez wrote their scripts.
Part of the human body is a brain. If it is functioning properly, we are able to emote and feel sensations. We are able to show quite a variety of emotions, be they like or love as in a friendship, sensual love, dislike, hate, and disgust. Our sensations include, hot, cold, taste as in sweet, sour or bland. We experience thirst or pain to name just a few.
To a Christian, God gave us a functioning brain in most cases. To an Atheist, they have a different belief.
The Pinellas 12 was made up of people with different faiths or maybe they did not have any. Some of the jurors may have been highly intelligent although I doubt that. Some may have had other priorities about to take place in their future plans that they felt more important than taking the time to deliberate a case fairly and justly.
Among the majority of people, Caylee did not receive justice when the verdict was handed down. So what do we do? We could just say, "ho hum, that's life," let a murderer walk free to enjoy her 'beautiful life."
God helps those who help themselves. We are taught to love our neighbor but I don't think God meant us to keep turning the other cheek without retaliating. If we (those who believe in God) are to do His work here on earth,
why shouldn't we show our emotions of disgust and loathing for Casey Anthony? If any of us can find an opportunity to make her life miserable, why not?
"Blessed little children who come unto Me!" On or about June 16th, 2008, a vibrant, full of life, beautiful little girl stuggled for her life while the commission of her murder was taking place. Her body finally went limp as her soul departed.
Having been given a functioning brain, I am well within my rights, as a human being, to feel loathing for Caylee's murderer and to wish the worst for her.
There are several on a CAYLEE site that I have entitled, "Justice Delayed is "NOT" Justice Denied, who doubt the veracity of this report.There are those, who believe that some article such as this always come out at an opportune time such as the supposed sighting in the restaurant on the same week that those who desire Justice for Caylee were remembering the memorial of her bones being discovered. Of course, (AS HORRIBLY SAD AS IT WAS) the Sandy Hook shooting with the terrible loss of those children and adults upstaged anymore following of her HANDLERS BRINGING HER OUT.There are those, who think that this article is just another one of those ploys to get attention brought to her at the time of the hearing of the appeals board. Frankly, I haven't come to any conclusion on the subject. Emotionally, it makes little difference to me. Whether true, half true, or all true, the fact remains that her family are ALL LIARS, DECEIVERS AND MONEY GRUBBERS living off the BLOOD MONEY OF CAYLEE, who was abused, murdered, and discarded in a swamp. Whether these people, who the article claims are turning a blind eye to her, "living among them." actually is happening is unimportant. She is living SOMEWHERE, and there are those who know where she is and they are turning a BLIND EYE and protecting a murderer. Were she living across the street from me, I would be SCREAMING IN PROTEST, so if these people really are friends of yours, so much for their ETHICS, which they have little of.
She's definitely dead inside, but my main reason for saying to leave her alone stems from all those neighbors. They didn't ask for this, nor can they take the law into their own hands.
I know there are comments addressing this, so I am going to explain it on one comment so I don't have to keep repeating myself. "Refer to my comment below" in other words, as I address the others.
Where Casey lives, those people cannot go out into the street and burn her place down like the townspeople setting Frankenstein on fire with torches. Most of them don't even know where she lives inside that community. She parks in a garage, like the batcave. In and out. Without breaking the law, what are their options? Should they move out and leave their mortgages behind or should they move and continue to pay? Where should they go? Should they just kill her? Should they complain to the management/homeowner's association? The security company? How many of them just don't care anymore or never cared to begin with? The world did not stop when Caylee died, anymore than it did when Trayvon Martin died. Do many of you even care about Trayvon? How about Jodi Arias's victim? How about the millions of other innocent victims murdered each year; men, women and children? Rape victims? Cancer and other debilitating diseases? The list goes on and on.
You see, it's easy to sit in a chair on the Internet espousing what must be done, but what would any of you actually do if you came face-to-face with Casey other than to spit on her and scream at her?
I'm all for complaining on blogs and forums, but those neighbors had nothing to do with this. Casey signed a 3-month lease with an option for 3 more, but I doubt she'll last there. That's the life she faces - one as a complete nomad with no real home. No one feels compassion out there except her family and a handful of other people. She has to hide. Everywhere she goes. And look over her shoulder. GREAT! She's got to worry that a physical confrontation can occur at any time. She can't go to the movies or anything that we take for granted. GREAT! So, if you're so adamant about wanting her dead, are you willing to spend the rest of your life in jail? Other than that, there's not much that can be done, but to complain about it. Do it here, but don't ask me where she lives because some nutjob most assuredly would crash through that gate and turn the place into another Newtown. Just what we need.
Now, I will try to answer some of the other comments, but if you - any of you - have a solution; a viable one, please feel free to express it here.
Dave~~As I 'sit' here.... I did not say one thing about any retaliation against her neighbors or putting them in harms way. Until I read your post, I had no idea where Casey resided.
Do you see any physical contact with anyone, including Casey in the following? Feeling and wishing are emotions.
Having been given a functioning brain, I am well within my rights, as a human being, to feel loathing for Caylee's murderer and to wish the worst for her.
Read the comment just above my last one - my first one. Casey's name was in the news and I'm to blame for it? Huh? I wish I had something to do with it if I'm going to get blamed.
That's the least of it.
The writer of that comment scares me a little; not that SHE, PERSONALLY, would take the law into her own hands, but she wouldn't stop anyone else. People like that scream bloody murder yet what do they really do except blow smoke on the Internet and blame people like me? Wow. I'm impressed. You see, she can, obviously, afford to fly down here and protest at city hall in Cape Canaveral. Why doesn't she? Too lazy? Why doesn't everyone else? WHAT? Why not? Does she blame the population of the whole town? All of Brevard County? Florida? The United States? You see, not everyone pops a cork. Does that make every damn one of them guilty of something? Everyone in the whole world who doesn't see eye-to-eye with Mary and the whole "Justice Delayed is NOT Justice Denied" site?
Something isn't right in this world. I dare anyone of you to write to city hall. Tell 'em Marinade Dave sent you. Tell him you want her out of town. While you're at it, tell him where you live.
Mayor Rocky Randels
The City of Cape Canaveral
105 Polk Avenue
PO Box 326
Cape Canaveral, FL 32920
r.randels(at)cityofcapecanaveral(dot)org
Dave~~I do not have any emotional ties to Trayvon Martin or the victim in the Jodi Arias case, Travis Alexander. I do feel bad for those who are victims of crime but not to the point of losing any sleep over them. They are strangers.
If I were to become emotionally involved in all the cases I follow, I would be as nutty as some of the Anthonys.
I did have an emotional tie to Caylee Anthony. As a mother of three girls, I would be damn cold- hearted if my heart did not break for that precious child. I cried actual tears for her, not the fake kind her mother tried to shed.
I also have an emotional tie to see justice being served when called for. Don't we all?
[Emotional ties aside, justice is served in a court of law. Whether we liked the outcome, that's the way justice works. Justice will not be served by harassing her neighbors. I suggest complaining to the local politicians, not forming a vigilante group against people in the neighborhood that can do nothing to make her move. People will be arrested for protesting on private property. People that live there could lose their jobs, too, for complaining too loudly.]
Within one week, while the subject has stirred emotions to want action, Any one to three people on this posting only who have expressed are ready to strap on their weapon, go to the location where Casey is and personally (no replacement) perform the act they want someone else to do to make for more satisfaction in their own heart, I will not physically attend and participate, but I will pay the airfare round trip, as long that they do not back out. It must be done, by persons who are actually writing comment at this time on this blogs post. This offer makes me a planner and accomplish, so if you can send yourself and me to prison, if any are willing to do that, then my life is in jeopardy and I know that this can kick back in my face because some kook could pick up on it and carry out a plan that I could be called responsible for. To really accomplish then we must backtrack for every horror any other child who has been put to death by a hand of an aggressor, murderer, torturer, where the legal system failed to do their duty and the aggressor was acquitted, we have the duty and responsibility to Bring Justice for "All"
Dave, you may find this inappropriate, if so please delete. You may be saving my life from prison.
[And that's the thing, New Puppy; murder is murder, and Caylee's death is no different from any other, other than it impacted many people so much more emotionally. But that makes it no different! Jim Larson lost his sister to a mass muderer. 7 years later, he loses his wife to another murderer, but only Caylee's counts? I know the preicisely the point you are making, and it makes sense.]
I mentioned that I did not know where Casey was living until I read your post. That was not suggesting that your post was a 'first' to release the information. I haven't had the time to check out the news outlets as I have been too busy with following and reporting on the Arias case...many similarities in the personalities of Jodi Arias and Casey. You should feel dang honored that I grace you with my presence when I lead such a busy life. lol
I am still updating the Jodi Arias thread in here....'slave driver'
I think the best post of the day goes to..............Charlee!
Charlee: Or the police could have responded with:
" We will be there between 9 and 1."
Dave~~you are kidding, right?
Something isn't right in this world. I dare anyone of you to write to city hall. Tell 'em Marinade Dave sent you. Tell him you want her out of town. While you're at it, tell him where you live.
Well..........*with emphasis
To:
Mayor Rocky Randels
The City of Cape Canaveral
105 Polk Avenue
PO Box 326
Cape Canaveral, FL 32920
From:
SnoopySleuth
The Province of Nova Scotia
Canada's Ocean Playground
Canada
Dear Rocky: It was brought to my attention by a dude who manages a blog by the handle of Marinade Dave that you may be able to assist me with a matter. He informed me that I was to inform you that he sent me. Mr Randels, before I take the time to inform you of a complaint that I would like you to look into, will you please inform me if this said, Marinade Dave has any pull in your office. You may have viewed this Marinade Dave on the Investigative Discovery channel recently. Since the program was aired on ID, Marinade has not been himself. If you have never heard of this man, please disregard this letter. If I do not get a response from you within 24 hours, I will seek immediate help for this blogger. We are very friendly here in Canada so lots of hugs, Rocky, from Snoop.
According to an article in your Orlando Sentinel today Ma Bundy died. I imagine they got as much grief as the Anthonys, and her passing is just another footnote in the news. Just like Cindy's will be.
Ted Bundy's mother dies: Louise Bundy told serial killer 'you'll always be my precious son'
No one can choose to be those people's neighbors, and most can't afford to just pack up and move just because Casey is in town. I'm with the leave them alone crowd, because of the neighbors. Her time has come and gone IMO.. I'm just biding my time, because what goes round comes round.. Casey will get hers eventually.
It was rumored way back in November that Casey was living in the Cape. Someone on Craig's list was offering $50,000 to anyone who would supply her address. Why has this all come to a head now?
This was back on Dec 01/12
Rumors swirling: Is Casey Anthony in Brevard?
You know, if the Skank just dropped her appeal of the lying charges (I mean, PLEASE), and settled with Zenaida, a lot of the fury against her would be dissipated, like a balloon losing air. It's the trying to get off Scott-free on everything, even where she's manifestly guilty, that drives people nuts. And I've often thought her long-term best interests would have been served more wisely by pleading to something in regards to Caylee's death (a kidnapping scenario, perhaps, with duct tape that went awry, and a foolish coverup of same, "fugue state" nonsense explaining post-death behaviors) than this appalling miscarriage of justice by the uncaring stupid jurors.
I do agree that she should be left alone while within her small community, but we can't just let her enjoy cocktails and bang-bang shrimp at those beach side clubs you ably describe, on Jo Jo's or anyone else's largesse, without protest, up to the tossing of rotten tomatoes. I don't want her to "enjoy" anything ever again, frankly.
Well, I am forced to answer the ignorance of the person, who took issue with what I wrote. If anyone thinks that JUSTICE took place in that courtroom in the case of Casey Anthony, they did NOT WATCH every minute of that trial as I did. Quit putting words in my mouth! I never gave any indication that I would do her any bodily harm, and I AM NOT A PERSON WHO ONLY SCREAMS ON A FB BLOG. For your information, my husband and I stood out in the rain with signs a few years ago in front of a court house, together with more than a thousand people, in a city close to where we live, to protest a great INJUSTICE that was being perpetrated against a high school principal by the ACLU. We are senior citizens, so it was not particularly easy to hold an umbrella and a big sign at the same time. When I said, "I would scream in PROTEST," I meant that I would probably visit with some neighbors and LOUDLY proclaim that a DON'T LIKE the murderer of her child living across the street from me. When I asked my husband this morning if he would LIKE THAT, his answer to me was."NO,'so you can include him in your nasty retort to me. That is what is wrong with this world. NO ONE ANYMORE cares for THE murder of a child. CAYLEE mattered!!!!!! And there are multitudes of people, who KNOW that JUSTICE DID NOT HAPPEN IN THAT COURT ROOM THAT DAY. UNLIKE the Anthonys who were paid big money to their FOUNDATION by Dr. Phil,of which they can use 80 percent of it for their own use, we live on a small fixed income. Now DON'T ACCUSE ME NEXT OF BEING JEALOUS !. I have NEVER been jealous of rich people, and some of my own childen probably have more than the Anthony family does. Frankly, I HOPE THAT JEFF ASHTON GETS VERY RICH OFF OF HIS BOOK AND THIS MOVIE THAT IS COMING OUT. IF ANYBODY DESERVES IT, HE DOES!!! No questions are even asked and NO ONE IN THE STATE OF FLORIDA CARES A WHIT ABOUT THE gross injustice of the misuse of DONATED funds by people, who, in some cases ,,,,,especially in the case of the first FOUNDATION which the ANTHONYS set up to supposedly to find a missing child, CAYLEE, who they well KNEW WAS ALREADY DEAD and in which the donors WERE DUPED to GIVE for a WRONG PURPOSE.. PURE FRAUD from my point of view!!! But if I knew that there was a protest being started, and I HAD THE MONEYTO FLY TO ORLANDO, A CITY WHERE CLOSE RELATIVES OF MINE LIVE, I would JOIN SUCH AN ENDEAVOR!!! FURTHERMORE, MY NAME IS MARY-ETTA (ONE WORD)....NOT MARY.
[EGADS, Mary-Etta, I apologize for not calling you by the right name.
I attended the Anthony trial, so I was there - in attendance. I'm not bragging, but to call me ignorant is ridiculous, and STOP SCREAMING. If anyone or anything is ignorant, it is the jury, not me. All I said was that the court rendered its decision. What is so stupid about me saying that? That's a fact. Period. Whether you like it or not. I, too, am a senior citizen, so you want sympathy from me? Nope. I left you two addresses in which to contact the mayor of Cape Canaveral. Use them or not; it's up to you. Also, I carefully wrote that you would not break the law, but you would do nothing to stop anyone else from doing so. Prove me wrong.
Thank you for commenting, and I truly appreciate your input.]
This is how I ended my comment what two days ago.
I personally feel some sorrow for KC,what a sad lost and lonely life,age will come,parents will be gone or too infirmed to care for her well being. If she or any of the A's truly believe in God they better remember;
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.
For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.
Gal. 6: 7,8
I'm really amazed at some of the comments since then. What would anyone gain by seeking or wishing for any type of harm to come to KC or any of her family. She is out in the world now and yet will never be free.
Maybe I understand because I was abused by my mother,and carry scars in my body and my mind to this day. My father didn't know until the day he say the blood dripping from my arm. I probably hated my mother as I was growing up.
Then one day when I was much,much older I realized something. My mother never recived a phone call,a letter or a card from a friend. I couldn't imagine that. Too never have a friend? Never go to a movie,go shopping or have lunch with a friend? Never to have friends in my home to enjoy a meal,laugh and play cards.
I don't wish anything bad to happen to KC. I do however hope she comes to realize what she did and ask for forgiveness. Probably won't happen,but it could.
I do truly believe;
Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name.
Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, As we forgive our debtors.
And do not lead us into temptation, But deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.
For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
Matt 6: 9-15 NKJV
OK sorry for the long post.
Wishing you all the best today and always.
Well crap Dave, you had 3 parts to this story and initially I only wanted to comment on one...hope you don't mind if I do all 3 though as it has been a while since I've posted; Colorado has its own monsters so there is no shortage of horror stories...
I will agree that George is playing the part and, IMO, he is Oscar worthy. Although there has been some speculation as to how involved he was with KC's defense and knowing that he may have to endure some "crap" I am not to quick to pounce on the notion George was aware of the molestation accusation. His demeanor and actions following this line of questioning was very sincere and I don't think for a minute he was aware of Baez and Fog Horn Leg Horn's approach and or line of questioning.
Although I follow the turmoil created by KC I am not involved to a degree in which I know where she lives and or eat or who makes routine visits. Sure I hope she endures a life of misfortune (unless she confessed mind you...)Until now I too had no idea she still lived in Florida...you'd think the first order of business was to pack the hell up and find a new country to populate...like Puerto Rico or something? But you say that George is a continued and or consistently seen face in the neighborhood but has Sin-dee or Lee been seen? I would almost venture to guess that mommy dearest has not visited or, if she has, its been brief. Lee too was kinda thrown under the bus with molestation but he loved his sister too but depending on exactly how "close" he was to Caylee I'd venture to guess he's been absent as well? See this is where I think the table turned for KC. I do agree that her family stayed behind her, regardless of the lies, they are an ideal family (you know the sticking together part?). But Caylee's death affected Cindy more than anything after the trial. There was no resolution to her grief and would not doubt for a single moment that Caylee's room is in pristine condition and would not be surprised if there are very few photos of KC with her daughter...I could be wrong? George is seen so much because he has always been the olive branch. KC and CA have always been at each others throats and with the death of Caylee my guess is there's still a lot of throat to be ripped-out. Cindy may be glad her daughter is not a convict but at the same time I believe Cindy is very much conflicted because there are still no answers. George will continue assisting KC merely for the fact that that's his daughter and love is unconditional. Right or wrong, guilty or not guilty she is still his child. But don't think for a second if he had the chance he'd probably beat the confession right out of her....just my thought.
As for leaving her alone for the sake of the community. Couldn't agree more; there should've been a protective order given and I may go as far as imposing a "witness protection" type program. Only 12 Jurors thought she was not guilty...there are well over 5 million in Florida who think otherwise and the commotion on twitter following her "not guilty" suggests that the entire world said WTF; so if anyone needed to be protected and hidden she's a perfect candidate. I do think that after some time though the commotion will come to an end and she'll lose the attention of the media...there isn't really a story and once the last court case is wrapped-up she'll be a bad memory. She better cure cancer or re-invent the wheel because she will always be viewed as the woman who killed her child because she had mommy issues and was found not guilty....plain and simple.
Thirdly: was she detained/arrested and her rights violated. Well, I'm reminded of an article written by the infamous Richard Hornsby who brought-up this very notion a few years ago. It took me a while to find it but, as its written in the article, it depends on how LE and the seating Judge looks at it and applies case law to determine. I argue that when she was placed in the squad car she was handcuffed because Cindy reported her car was stolen. It wasn't until there were other statements about a missing child that she was taken out of the car and the handcuffs removed. To me any and all questioning was to find a live Caylee Marie Anthony and the issue with the care was quickly absconed from. During that questioning came discussions about a cell phone and where she worked and where she's been. A lot of this, IMO, should've been brought up in court because the timeline and cellphone pings would've sealed her fate. But I digress. The detectives took a willing Casey Anthony to her place of employment in hopes of procuring evidence that may lead to the location of her daughter. KC made a stink about working at Universal and never mentioned otherwise even when confronted by the security guard. It was because LE was present that she was allowed in and then proceeded to take them down the hallway to her supposed office only to stop mid way and turn and said she lied....they went into an unused/empty office and spoke with KC. She was reminded, according to transripts, that she was not being held against her will and at any time she could stop the interview and leave on her own accord. She stayed and played the game. By this time she had secured her guilty crime of lying to detectives and, IMO, is in no way inferred to be "in custody" violating Miranda Rights.
Mr. Hornsby's article is here: http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/03/a-favorable-appellate-case-for-the-state/
Good article Mary-Etta. I agree with you whole-heartedly.
-------E
I have my pitch fork sharpened and ready
-------< this is my torch
I am overflowing with ethics and zeal just point me in the correct direction LOL
yall naysayers need to get a grip, we cannot legally do anything to her no matter where she lives, you do have the right to avoid her if you please or give her the stank eye which is what I would do. Good thing I dont live in Florida or she would see many stank eyed looks from me LOL
Tommy's Mom, I truly love your heart, you know what is important, common sense, how to carry a burden without making it worse, and so much more that I have a great amount of appreciation for in you. Your calm and sensible approach on this blog has always been impressive and always a lesson learned in everything you write, all in your analysis, your Scripture quotes and in your humor. How you can still an approaching storm with just a short story to settle the dust. We should all have friends like you. I believe you have true faith in a higher power who will reconcile what needs to be done in each and every situation that we as compassionates have such urges to do ourselves or at least to know it has been accomplished. Time will not always allow that for us to see but what HE wants finalized, will be done. Thank you for always being steady in who you are.
I have lived never knowing what it is like to ever have a true and lasting friend. To have tried to be one to anyone who only needed one themself but could never be one back. In just a second even hope was never really there. It is difficult to never be allowed to go and be while to others it may appear you have everything good and easy, it may not be true. To be thought of in a negative way. Crime or not, sometimes just an average person has to live confined and willingly do so for the benefit of all those who they love and who depend on their strength. It is not easy and with the potential of guilt in one's mind, as even Casey may have, I can imagine, as smirky she may be, she really must be dead inside. She is to me very pitiful, I find it sad, very sad, that any young child dies, that any young woman and mother did or could not stop herself, that any family end up the way the Anthonys have. I hope it never ever happens in any of my family. Who can tell what the future holds. Who of our own might someday be where Caylee and Casey are today. We don't know. I am not too proud to think that it could never happen, it can!
New Puppy
Thank you for your kind comment,I do have a really steadfast faith in God. I believe He is a loving and forgiving God,if we obey Him to the best of our abilities and ask His forgiveness when we fail. He has promised that in His word and I believe Him. I came to my faith very late in life,which I suppose is the reason I'm so grateful for it. I don't take anything for granted. Whatever the circumstances your life and the life of those you love can change in the blink of an eye. I do feel sympathy for KC and all that family,they have such a lonely,useless life and don't even know it. If regret comes to any of them I hope it comes before they reach that gulf from which there is no escape.
Remember the story of a rich man?
'And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that those who want to pass from here to you cannot, nor can those from there pass to us.' Luke 16: 26 NKJV
Thank you again you are so very kind.
Too lighten the mood.
This is my morning routine!
I wake up,
I lift my arms,
I move my knees,
I turn my neck....
Everything makes the same noise:
'CrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaccccK!'
I came to a conclusion:
I am not old,
I am crispy!!!
See what I mean? You always add a little extra encouragement and spice!
You have been one of the greatest commenters and comforting people on this blog just being you and it has always touched me very much especially in the times of strains between some of us.
It is hard to leave a place where one like you have always been ready and willing to calm the waters. I just wanted you to know I never missed reading your comments and never came away from one feeling bad, always whatever good you have, you share generously and openly.
Thank you, Tommy's Mom, Sincerely, New Puppy.
[I would hope you'll want to comment on the third part, too, BMan, because I appreciate your views.
Your statement about Colorado having no shortage of horror stories is an interesting way to segue - Not that it's ever a good thing, but you said you agree that George is playing the part and is, therefore, Oscar worthy. I disagree. Because that story was as much of a horror as any other, if not more, it makes George worthy of an Edgar award.
Quite clearly, there are two main camps in which to take umbrage with George. He was in on the deal or he wasn't, and that's pretty much it, but, either way, he's still a jerk and he has a rank way about him that angers so many people. I happen to think he was in on the deal because of his actions today and, primarily, due to his answer to Baez's questions in the courtroom on the final day of hearings. I sat there within feet of him and I saw his face as he proclaimed he would do anything - LIE, LIE, LIE - to save his daughter's life. She was set free and look at him now.
Lee is another breed altogether. There was always a sense, to me, that something was inherently wrong with him; an unspecific oddness that defies defining to this very day. In other words, there's no way to pinpoint it, but you know it when you see it. Has he been seen over there? I haven't heard anything either way. How about Cindy? Yes, I believe so, but it's been mostly George.
My guess right now is that Caylee's room is an ever-growing shrine. It is just like the day she left this world, and that is haunting to the inhabitants of that house. It was the place where Caylee died and it is tough to fathom why the family would want to stay there but, at the same time, it's tough to leave because the memories are there and, perhaps, her spirit. I'm sure Cindy believes that. There is the hell on earth she lives in and the public that still demands her head has no comprehension of it. Yes, Cindy is a sinner, and she will die one, but for the remaining days of her life, she will never find happiness.
I don't think we'll ever have to worry about Casey's happiness, either. It will never come. That's not to say she needs no further punishment, but who is righteous enough to pronounce it and impose a sentence of death? That's precisely my point. Oh, go ahead and protest, but what good will it do? Create a ruckus in the community? Disrupt her neighbors, who only want to be left alone by her and the riotous masses hellbent on destroying their lives, too? There is no defining answer. Millions of people have millions of punishments for her, yet they have absolutely no authority to do anything. I say so and what do I get? Screams from people who never visited here; never said a peep on my blog. One recent commenter here, for example, blamed me as much as Casey, seemingly. That's how skewed people can be; they include others for not aggressively backing their points of view wholeheartedly. PFFFT. It makes everyone the enemy if they don't agree 100 percent.
As for her Miranda warning, if you read the appellate motion, and you can clearly tell it was written by Foghorn Leghorn hisself, he stretches minutes into hours - she sat in the police car for up to an hour - BULL, just like he did in the courtroom when he called Casey 'this poor little girl' when she was quite the woman in every sense of the word; understanding the wiles of the world indeed! And quite well.
I have zero sympathy, nor any compassion, for any members of the Anthony family.
Thanks, BMan. I hope this answers any and all other comments, as well. I appreciate all of the comments.
Dave,
Very few writters/bloggers can susstain themselves beyond any particular topic. There are some who have really good views and are excellent writters but don't have the longevity. There will never be a shortage of those who truly follow you and respect you and your views but there are those who are maddening and are rude and disrespectful...
What makes you a lot different than other bloggers is the expectation that you will try and comment on anyones or everyones point of view. You value your followers which cannot be said for some. I recommend that if a person disagrees with how your views (keep in mind anyone can disagree with you but there's always a reason and an offer of a valid view point...you,me, others, we're not infalible) but once there is a breach in respect and the crossing of the line as it becomes accusitory (forgive my spelling as I know there are a lot of errors....) that's when you are blessed with..."I don't care to answer that or dignify that with a response" cause you dont.
I appreciate the fact that you take the time to read mine however and I'm glad you still find "past issues" relevant even if "we" can't change the world.
As for the one person...it sounds as though she/he may have been on the 'pro-casey" blog site (can't remember what it was called) the antic are very similar to when the trial was escalating...you have problems with them then too....
either way, Thank you for your time and committment!!
[You are so right, BMan. There is a huge difference between having opposing opinions and treating someone with disrespect. Many people don't see it that way. If I go to someone's house, I wipe my feet first. That's just the start. I cannot tell you about the slobs that have come here and treated me horribly, then turn around and complain about me on other blogs and forums for not allowing their voices to be heard on mine. People can be sooooo rude. Thank you for your time and commitment, too.]