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Monday, September 3, 2012 at 9:09PM This is the first of, what I hope to be, many lessons from the mind of George Zimmerman. Here, he explains why there’s a discrepancy between the time he laid out (differently on more than one occasion) and the actual time it took for the night of February 26 to unfold…
Hopefully, Ol’ Georgie Boy will be open to answering some of your questions in future videos…
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Reader Comments (31)
Aha! I knew it! I knew it was a time warp! Why, even the bullet went so fast that GZ didn't know if he had actually shot Trayvon or not! Oh. Wait. Perhaps GZ was experiencing astral projection at the time the gun fired off...
Loved the video, Dave. Its nice that GZ is giving you exclusive interviews so as to educate us.
Thank you, Sherry. It's my first attempt at this sort of thing and I hope to improve over time. That is, of course, if people have questions for our zuper duper space cadet.
You know, you may be right. He may have projected himself someplace else when the gun fired. Hmm... interesting thought...
Dave: I got a big kick out of the shifty eyes! LOL
Maybe you could get him to explain the gun draw. I would like him to go over how he managed to get the gun out of the holster--while Trayvon straddled him--and turn the gun around (with one hand); and shoot Trayvon Martin, in the chest--from an intermediate range.
I hope he remembers that his elbows were supposedly on the ground; and that the gun shot was a contact wound to Trayvon's clothing.
Your video was very unique. Thank you.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, nan11. Thank you.
I will ask Zuper Duper Zimmerman your questions and see if he comes up with an excuse... er... I mean... answer. Next time, he may experiment with smiles and other facial gestures.
Hilarious. Hope you do more.
By George, I hope so, too, Sharon! Thanks.
o....k... just when I thought GZ couldn't get any creepier, you did it for him! I am the kind of person who can't just sit and watch a video or tv show. I have to be doing something else at the same time, and usually on here it's a minesweeper type of game that can be done without thinking. This time I had to put the game right over the face so it wouldn't creep me out lol. And it made as much sense to me as his original explanation did. I used to tell my daughters when they were little that their eyes changed colors when they lied to me. They went from brown to blue and back. That and sweat pouring off his face was all that was missing lol.
[If there's anyone who can make a person more evil than in real life, leave it to me, Connie. I came up with the idea to use double-speak because that's what Z does, although I am convinced I made him a heck of a lot more intelligent than he really is. Still, he's kind of nerdy and a real momma's boy type guy. Believe me, if I can add sweat in the future, I will. Anyway, I'm glad it had just enough creep-factor to give you a little bit of the heebie-jeebies. Thanks.
By the way, my main computer is kapputz after I tried to restore it to an earlier time. The sound hasn't worked in months. Now, it doesn't work at all. Good thing I have a back-up.]
Good morning Dave, (and friends)
Ha. You've 'captured' him right down to the shifting
eyes from the first bond hearing AND come up with the
only explanation that fits the forensic evidence.
Albeit at varying times, he's told us that:
1. Trayvon punched him in the nose
2. Hit his face with fists that felt as if
they held bricks between 12-15 times
3. Used his hands to grab Z's head to
repeatedly bang it down on concrete
4. Put one hand over his (now bleeding) nose
and the other hand over his mouth to smother
But there's not a trace of mucus, spittle, blood,
skin cells, facial hair or Z's DNA anywhere on Trayvon's hands.
There should have been plenty of it.
We have Zimmerman's illogical and self-serving explanation
of his time between his phone call and the shot, (which can be
measured in minutes) and we will have the records of two cell
phones, one belonging to the victim and one belonging to his friend.
IF both cell phone carriers can provide accurate records that aren't
simply rounded off for billing purposes, the time between Trayvon's
last words to his friend and the shot will be measured in seconds.
But are we and the truth heading for another fall a year from now?
A possible change a venue, a search for those who claim to live
in caves, a group of six who don't want to be there latching on
to a spagetti defense and spinning off into la la land?
And if they do, will they tell us afterwards it was because no one
saw the shot, Zimmerman had some blood, blah, blah, blah blah. The
State didn't prove this strand or that strand of spagetti didn't stick beyond any
'imaginable' doubt?
Argh!!
[Hello, CoffeeLover and welcome to the blog! I'm sorry I'm late responding, but it has been a busy day - running errands and then the computer glitch, which I don't know what I'm going to do if I can't fix it myself. Windows will have to be reinstalled.
There are so many discrepancies in Z's stories and timelines, hence the time-warp video. I would love to hear his explanation regarding the lack of evidence on Trayvon's hands. Nothing. Perhaps he will give an explanation in a future video. Hint. hint.
As for the cell phonerecords, I hope they proffer up something good for the state. And when it comes trial time, I don't know where the jury will come from, but I do have an idea about it and I will be expressing it in a future post.
I have a lot of faith in de la Rionda and Corey, and with a name like de la Rionda, there's bound to be some pasta that's going to stick. And it's going to get VERY sticky. Thanks, and keep those comments a'coming!]
. J Nelson will be gz s Waterloo as he faces trial an perhaps desides to give evidence in his own defence.His last stand at his lie of stand your ground.....With a jury containing six people.If gz had got his desired pick of J Eaton i m o............He would have ditched a jury an a self defence hearing/S Y G.And went straight to trial at the bench with the judge decideding his guilt or innosence.Not sure on his stradegy now with J Nelson.A change of venue /jury from out of county is a certainty.He will probably take his chance with six people six stranger as was Trayvon .Hopefull this p o s has not got 6 likeminde/peers to sit on his judgement or he will walk
[Hi, ecossie - Like I told CoffeeLover, I will be writing about the jury; where I think it will come from and why. You know, I never thought that Judge Eaton would take over the case. Not this one. It's too big and extensive. It will last well into next year and that might be too much for a retired judge to handle. I am glad he ended up with Nelson, and I'm sure O'Mara knew he would get her due to the schedule rotation, meaning she was next in line. I guess the defense feels she's not as biased as Lester was, but I didn't really believe he was. Hey! What do I know about judges?]
Yeah but it is apparent that there are alot of ignorant persons who support this clown Zimmerman and that IS scarier than this video.
[To each their own, I guess. Whatever makes the world go 'round. Maybe there are people who believe Z because they can't picture him going out and looking for trouble, although he did the moment he opened his door and got out of the truck. Even still, at that point and beyond, he wasn't doing anything illegal. Lacking in common sense and good judgment? Absolutely, and most of us feel he went way above and beyond the edicts of his duties as a NW person. Some will say he wasn't working in that capacity on the night he shot Trayvon, but he mentioned it in his phone call to the dispatcher. Like a cop, he had a mindset that he was never really off-duty. Of course, then there's the die-hard NRA people, not that I'm going to start a war with that organization, but some members are overzealous. Other people may think that to take the Trayvon side means we are bleeding heart liberals. I disagree. All I want is the truth and Z ain't sayin' it yet. This is purely an issue over right and wrong. Believe it or not, there are nuts out there with guns. I wonder what the Z supporters think about all the recent shootings. Those guns were purchased legally, too. I guess that makes it alright? Gee whiz.]
A small excert from the Ostermans book on gz .....The Most Hated Man In America My Freind George Zimmerman.......The treeple ar runninng a series of articles with excerts from the alleged manuscript.An crituqeing the inacuracies an fallices they claim are there.And how G does not endorce this book They point out the harm to the defence this book an the timeing of release.Before a trial has even started let alone concluded..This is i m o a realy poignant example of why this book is such a bad move.. .
As we sat around the table that morning, we listened while George explained to Sondra what had taken place the night before. The information was exactly the same as he reported on the ride over from the police station. Once again, he repeated his fear that “he was going to die” during the deadly struggle and that the encounter was a “him or me” situation.
George told us about the moment he first learned the young man he had shot had died at the scene. He said he wept when he heard the news and saw the photos of Trayvon Martin. As he spoke, Sondra and Shellie had tears in their eyes. We were feeling the emotional impact the shooting was having on George. His sadness was palpable as he spoke of the loss of “someone’s son, or brother.”
[Interesting, ecossie. I find it very hard to believe Z had (or has, for that matter) any feelings whatsoever about Trayvon and what he did to him that fateful night. It's inconceivable. Osterman is lying, Z is lying, or they both are, and that's more likely.]
Not only is that scary, but I wonder how the State will tiptoe through the minefield of those first hours, then days, then weeks that followed the shooting.
Because in real life any officer of the law on scene should have realized no weapon on or near the gunshot victim, ask the on scene medical examiner about the shooting victim's hands. No blood or damage visible renders the shooter's story highly suspicious from minute one, so all protocols for a homicide investigation should be followed to the letter.
But they weren't and we know why. They took his word at face value and didn't proceed with all the protocols. It's a problem for the State as I see it. Of course it's offset by Zimmerman's NEM call and all we've seen in discovery so far, but what a crapshoot it is for the truth of the matter--the minds of six people who will decide.
[You know, CoffeeLover, I've often said that if Z walks, it will be due to shoddy police work. They took Z at his word... OK, just another dead punk. Thanks, Zimmerman! What a shame that would be, but if there's a consolation, it's that Z will never really be free again. He will be haunted for the rest of his life by people that wish him gone from the human race, not that I condone it, but he did it to himself.]
I have tried to comment on that treehouse site.
They are not interested in facts, just that it was God's plan.
That's it.
I have no problem with their stance and support of GZ, if they could just give one factual piece of evidence or something solid to base their opinion on other than ignorance.
I can't even get my comments out of moderation.
[There seems to be another site that's just the opposite. They don't want to read anything that's supportive of Zimmerman. I'm certainly not sympathetic to his cause; no, not one bit, but I'll at least accept comments from both sides. Most of his people stay away, though.
Keep in mind that monkeys hang out in trees, not humans, generally, and criminal defense attorneys are supposed to be just that - criminal defense attorneys. Sadly, this case has turned incredibly ugly. If you take Z's side, you can only be a racist. If you take T's side, you cannot believe in the supreme white God. And you must be a liberal Obama supporting Democrat. Forget the fact that there's a difference between right and wrong in this case that transcends religion, racism and party affiliation. Heck, where does that leave all my Canadian and other non-American friends? They aren't Republicans or Democrats.]
Thanks for fixing the posts, Dave. Much appreciated :)
[My pleasure, CoffeeLover, but it hardly makes sense now that all the corrections have been made.]
George joked about wearing a hoody out of prison and showing up at TM rallies. He never once expressed even an inkling of feelings/regret and usually spoke of shooting TM in a matter of fact tone. He even said he'd change nothing on national TV. The stories of remorse are as fabricated as his story and timeline. Its important not to be fooled by such folly. As far as I'm concerned the entire Zimnmerman flock have all proven to be bad people. Taaffe, Shel,Osterman,Shells folks,George's bigoted mother, etc etc. Birds of a feather.
[Yes, that's right, Manberk, he did mock Trayvon on his recorded phone calls. What a creep.There is no remorse - not one single thread of sorrow - in his heart. It's as if he looked at Trayvon as some sort of subhuman species or something, like setting a trap for a mouse. I agree with you 100%. Birds of a feather; the whole flock of them are nothing but pathetic vultures. Thanks.]
No worries on late replies, coffee lovers take plenty of breaks. Thanks for the welcome!
A pox on computer glitches though since they will put a dent in the creative flow when a writer's in the mood. Looking forward to the hints and your thoughts with regard to venues, etc., whenever they arrive.
And you're right, Mr. DLR may well have some teflon coating up his sleeve. Some thought Investigator Gillbreath seemed unprepaired at the first bond hearing. I thought they missed a gleam in his eye. I translated it as confident, cagey, and a tad surprised at a pretty lame attempt to try the case at a bond hearing.
Cynics R Us here, but I'll try and keep some faith.
[I am in the middle of attempting to restore my laptop from AI restore DVDs I burned several months ago. If they fail, I will have to reformat the hard drive and reinstall Windows7. I spent most of last night and this morning backing up my impoertant files and folders to an external drive. I had to remove the hard drive from the computer to do that, and plug it into a SATA drive. Not fun.
De la Rionda is an intimidating figure, and I'm sure that, on several occasions, Z has tried to have him removed, too, just like Judge Lester, but it doesn't work that way. With de la Rionda, he has more than met his match, and this, more than anything or anyone else, may preclude him from testifying at the SYG heaing and the impending trial. Surely, he wouldn't be able to win the SYG hearing without taking the stand, and when push comes to shove, all of his (so called) cop friends will take the prosecution side. They owe no allegiance to a cop wannabe, especially now that the evidence weighs against him. No, I'm afraid this will come down to hardcore evidence, not what his cronies think of him as the upstanding guy he's not. Upstanding guys do not go around chasing kids, gun in hand, let alone use it and tell lie after lie after lie after the deed is done. He may think he is standing his ground, but it is nothing more than a landfill he squats on.]
Dave, your video portrayal is representative of our imaginative robots from outer space. If one really thinks about it, the possibility that George Zimmerman's inner workings are exactly as you have characterized in him may just exist. I am a little concerned that if O'Mara gets your video, he may use it in defense of GZ having no conscience soul, that he has been overtaken by some sci-fi entity and has no control over what is done by one that only still looks like the George Zimmerman we think we know
[Despite the video being made tongue-in-cheek, New Puppy, I think you're right. There is an element of truth to it; the truth being that Z lives in a fantasy world, where everything he does is magically turned into an act of heroism. He's got to be a sci-fi fan in order to believe in himself, like a comic book superhero.
Thanks. I will say that O'Mara will not need my video. He's got all the evidence he needs in his client to show that there's something very wrong there.
My first video was kind of an exploration. I hope future ones look into his psyche. Clearly, this is a man with problems.
Thanks, New Puppy.]
That was great Dave. I loved it. :)
[Thank you, Joanna, I'm glad you did. I only hope they improve as I add to the collection.]
This thing you got on here today looks just like something comin out of the swamps down here where I hang out.
[HAH! And it looks like this case is going to keep us bogged down for awhile, too, Eyeball.]
ROFLMAO!!! Dave, you are talented. I'm glad I continued reading comments to hear Mahalia Jackson in the subsequent vid. Thanks for that too.
[Thank you very much, Xena. I do take particular pride in the video from the Sanford rally. I knew right away I wanted it to be set to music by Mahalia, but I wasn't sure what until I found that song. I knew when I found it that it could be no other song. It was perfect!
To those new to my blog and anyone else interested, the video is here: National Rally for Justice on behalf of Trayvon Martin ]
Xena, I saw a vidio you put on another place this mornin and I wonder if the prosecusion can take something like it and use it to come againt this one here of Dave's that the defence might use. New Puppy just mitht be right about them attorneies gettin information they can use from people like here and there wher truth gits showed up out of people putting together some of their good thinking.
That rally video was amazing,I cried while watching.
I'm very concerned about a trial for this "man",he reminds me so very much of CMA. He believes whatever he says,did or does is right. He simply cannot/will not ever see why his words or actions are not accepted as right. I'm sure he belives all the marchs,speeches and/or video coverage in favor of Trayvon are a complete waste of time. I know even if he walks,he will never be truly free,unless he leaves the country,just as CMA is not now and never will be truly free.
On a lighter note
I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once. ~Jennifer Unlimited~
[I didn't necessarily mean to make you cry, Tommy's Mom, but I did want the video to portray exactly what it was - an emotional event. No one could have set the mood better than than that song from Mahalia Jackson.
Z reminds me of CMA in some ways, too. Very manipulative and used to getting their way. Egotistical, too, not to mention blind to the real world. Where Casey had her phony friends, Z has his phony cop cronies. He thought he was in their inner circle. What a jerk. And no, no matter what, they will never truly be free.
I know what it's like to be attacked over the course of more than one day. Sometimes, when it rains, it really does pour.
Thanks, I was hoping that video would have an impact on people.]
I think this whole case comes down to respect.
Respect is something you learn at home then you earn it.
On the street respect is crucial.
GZ wanted respect he craved it, he wanted it. He wanted from his neighbors, he wanted it from the LE community. But in his quest to GET respect - key word here GET! Not earn!
You have to earn respect.
In order to earn respect you have to give respect.
Had GZ only had respect for Trayvon as a person that fateful night the outcome would certainly be different.
GZ also wanted the respect of the criminals that were trespassing in his neighborhood.
Trayvon was going to be his segway to getting that respect he so desperately craved.
Judge Lester was not going to give him that respect.
[I think you hit the nail right on the head, John. He wanted it, needed it, craved it and, finally, demanded it. For that fleeting moment, he made Trayvon respect him, but only because of the gun. Check that. Trayvon respected the gun, not him. You made me think about it, too. Two people showed him no respect and they are both gone - Trayvon and Lester. He's totally out of respect chips and he's on his own. He's got to be one frightened wuss.]]
@Eyeball. It is my impression that the prosecution's investigation uncovered everything they need to prevail. The defense, OTOH, has to "build" GZ's defense. That is what O'Mara said when filing to waive GZ's rights to a speedy trial.
Your points is a big one John, I see on Leathrman posting there is one to that said a lot on George Zimmerman by a TM today, Id say you both got a lot of smarts about this guy and his thinkin along with Daves vidio here is quite a wide cover of the big Z. and his personalty.
You ar right Xena, I like to think outside and see what a man like him is made up on. Facs will be all that is gonng to make him get cooked still I lilk to look for the why in things like WHY, real why did he did seem to WANT to kill that boy.
Off Topic but it is news....
The author of the following article must not be aware that O'Mara is going for the self-defense immunity. It is quite similar to SYG immunity so Z may not have an easy time when he goes before Nelson.
SANFORD - In May, Circuit Judge Debra Nelson, who has taken over the George Zimmerman murder case, rejected the "stand your ground" claim of a 21-year-old Sanford man who was charged with murder.
A month later, a Seminole County jury acquitted him.
That case, Florida v. Kishawn Jones, is important because it could signal what's ahead for Zimmerman, the 28-year-old Neighborhood Watch volunteer who killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed, black 17-year-old.
Zimmerman is expected to use Florida's "stand your ground" law to try to clear himself. Passed by the Florida Legislature in 2005, the law grants immunity to anyone who uses deadly force if he has a reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury.
Read more here....
George Zimmerman judge rejected 'stand your ground' claim in other murder case
[Hi, Snoopy - I think this judge will rule just like Lester would have on either the SYG or self-defense immunity hearing, although the last I heard, it was supposed to be the one on immunity. I just don't see enough evidence to toss the charge. Certainly, if Z refuses to take the stand, the hearing would be next to nothing, and if he does, de la Rionda will make mince meat out of him. I just don't see it as a win for Z, not with the new judge AND de la Rionda, and if there were ever a case that needs to be heard by a jury, this is it. Thanks for the link.]
If GZ had seen Trayvon break into a home or car then he could have gone after him. He didn't,he went in pursuit, of Trayvon. I don't see how GZ can claim SYG.
JMHO George Zimmerman went after Trayvon with a gun,whether to try to hold him until police arrived or to kill him,only he knows. He has shown by his lies and total lack of remorse that killing Trayvon was on his mind.
[Actually, Z shouldn't have gone after him under any condition. He is (was) never a cop, although he thought he was. Any way you look at it, the guy's a nut with a gun. He had no business in the position of NW captain or whatever else he called himself. Had this not happened, he'd be a self-proclaimed major by now. Sure, he had a right to bear arms, but some people just shouldn't, and without it, he would have cowered in fear over an earthworm. Then, he'd tell everyone a boa constrictor attacked him.]
I cannot see how O'Mara can win a self-defense immunity evidentiary hearing for his client without Z taking the stand. O'Mara has to convince the judge that Z's injuries were life threatening or would cause him great bodily harm. If Mark introduces Z's medical records by putting a medical expert on the stand, he can probably prove that Z had a hairline fracture to the nose and a few lacerations. Those diagnoses do not require x'rays, ct scans and the like. IMO, Z claiming the great bodily harm would be pretty flimsy.
Now if Mark wants to bring in evidence that Trayvon reached for Z's gun, he will have to put Z on the stand. Mark may put Z on the stand and just open the door slightly. I don't believe that De La Rionda can cross examine Z and go beyond the scope of what O'Mara introduces. Reaching for the gun would carry more weight than Z's injuries. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
My questions are, can De La Rionda introduce his own evidence to disprove the defense's claims, such as a ballistics expert etc during this evidentiary hearing? Am I wrong and BDLR can go outside the scope?
[Snoopy - I'm working on a new post that will address the issues you raise, so please bear with me.]
At the immunity hearing, it's almost imperative that GZ testify. He is the only person who can address his fear and belief. The nose and cuts on the head are overcome by forensic evidence. The lab found no DNA or blood on Trayvon's hands foreign to Trayvon.
The story about going for the gun defeats GZ's self-defense claims, IMO. O'Mara is arguing traditional self-defense on the basis that GZ could not remove himself because he was pinned down. But remember GZ's story. He said that he shimmied to the grass. That conveys ability to move his body. It also means that he was no longer in danger of having his head bashed on the sidewalk. He also said that his jacket raised, exposing his holstered gun on his hip. That conveys that his body was free from the hip up. Both of his arms were free.
Then, GZ said that he pinned Trayvon's arm and locked his wrist. That conveys that GZ was no longer in danger. Yet, after eliminating all the things that he said placed his life in fear , and knowing that the police were expected to arrive any moment, he said that he "aimed" and shot Trayvon.
At the immunity hearing, the State presents its case after the defense has rested. The standard is preponderance of the evidence. The State has prevailed in immunity hearings by showing the court that the defendant's story has been inconsistent.
[Yup, yup, and yup. And I'm working on a new post that should explain the complexities of this impending motion and what it should entail. Thanks, Xena.]
Xena~~it sounds like this may end up as a full fledged trial. I know it goes before the judge sans jury. I thought it was just a self-defense immunity evidentiary hearing/mini trial. I guess the self-defense is a bit different from a SYG immunity mini trial. I am still learning as I go. Thanks for the info.
New post up addressing stand your ground.