ZIMMERMAN: I'M SORRY, BUT IT WAS GOD'S PLAN
Wednesday, July 18, 2012 at 10:25PM Statement from Martin Family:
GZ said that he does not regret getting out of his vehicle, he does not regret following Trayvon, in fact he does not regret anything he did that night. He wouldn’t do anything different and he concluded it was God’s plan.
Tracy Martin: We must worship a different God because there is no way that MY God would have wanted G. Zimmerman to KILL my teenage son.
Yes, George Zimmerman did say both, but not in that order. God came first — then the apology. Throughout the interview, he kept his eyes on the host, Sean Hannity, but when he was offered the opportunity to give his final thoughts with a minute or two left, he turned to face the camera, just like a seasoned politician. My fellow Americans… This dude is one smooth operator, but fortunately, he thinks more highly of himself and about what he did than most people’s perceptions. He’s good, but he’s no pro. Ironically, I do believe he and Mark O’Mara are reeling in the money after tonight’s performance because we live in a time when you can make a fortune off your dead victim. How sad.
I’ll tell you, while most reasonably sane people understood Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker and what made them tick, their flock kept right on flocking and the dumb kept right on donating. The main difference between Zimmerman and Tammy Faye are the make-up and tears. Well, I think there’s another distinction and it’s an important one. Had Tammy Faye been around The Retreat at Twin Lakes that fateful February night, God rest her soul, she most likely would have marched right up to Trayvon and asked him what he was doing. She was a feisty one. She would have asked him to pray with her, too. Then, she would have asked for money. George, on the other hand… he just wimped out.
Hannity went easy on him. He could have asked questions about why Trayvon’s body was found farther south from where the confrontation took place, according to his account; how he managed to get the gun out of the holster upside down and fire directly (meaning straight) into the victim’s upper chest; and how the boy’s arms were tucked neatly under his body the way they fell, when he showed investigators during the reenactment how he spread them out and away from his sides. There have been so many inconsistencies in his stories but, like political interviews, I suppose, there will always be questions that remain off-limits. I understand — there’s a trial ahead — but I still believe that George Zimmerman will never, ever admit that what he did was wrong, and tonight he proved it. He said he was sorry about what happened, but quite absent was an apology for what he did; he got out of his vehicle with a loaded gun. Instead, he asked for apologies from Al Sharpton and Spike Lee for calling the shooting a racial crime.
PFFFFFT. As if he would ever be the one to say I’m sorry to.
Oh yes, he’s good, alright, but even after he clarified his ethnicity by saying he’s caucasian and Hispanic, he made it a point to call himself an American first; above and beyond. Well, Yankee Doodle Dandy, George, you sure do know how to touch the masses. I don’t think you’ll ever be president, but after tonight, I’m not quite sure how you feel about that.
(The interview was held today at an area hotel and there was no monetary payout according to both parties. Zimmerman denied ever knowing about “Stand Your Ground” prior to the incident, and neither Zimmerman or O’Mara solicited donations on the show.)
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Barbara Walters says 'no' to George Zimmerman interview, says meeting was bizarre-video
Dave: Richard Hornsby is tweeting that it has been pointed out that George Zimmerman's first motion to recuse was based on a different section than his second motion, so he is saying the judge will have to step aside.
When you are feeling up to it, I would love to hear you thoughts on that.
[Funny you ask. Your wish is my command. I'm working on my next post and it will (hopefully) answer your questions about it. I don't think the judge needs to step down.]
I guess it is going to be Daryl Parks on with Sean Hanity tonight.
Huffington Post - Daryl Parks, Attorney For Trayvon Martin Family, Talks George Zimmerman's Interview With Sean Hannity
(lol He apparently bumped Baez promoting his 'book' until sometime next week.)
Here is a good article explaining about that website business:
WKMG - Local 6 exclusive: George Zimmerman criticizes defense team's online efforts
Sub-Heading: Zimmerman removes complaints on website's 'About' page
Quote: George Zimmerman’s newly relaunched website – one he is producing outside of the defense team’s control – included criticism of his own legal defense team’s website, until the criticisms were removed by Thursday, Local 6 has learned. End Quote
Nan11~~ I posted the following on July 15th in Dave's other post..... I wonder if this is what Hornsby is referring to...
[[Added: This is O'Mara's second motion to recuse a judge, but the motion he filed in April was based on section (d)(2) of the rule (affinity of judge to an interested person) not the impartiality section (d)(1). Although he mentions impartiality in the first motion, he cites a case law for his statement, not the rule, and it seems obvious to me the first motion is filed only under section (d)(2) (although the state might disagree.)
If Judge Lester treats the motion as the first one filed under Section (d)(1), he has to treat the facts as true. Only if he deems it a second motion under (d)(1) does he have discretion to rule on whether they are true or not.]
IIRC, Nan11, Dave did not agree with it.
[And I'll be getting more into my explanation, too...]
Zimmerman is a real loose cannon with grandiose thinking . I can only imagine the regret O'Mara must feel for taking on this case. The only positive thing coming out these public pronouncements is Zimmerman providing fodder to be used as evidence.
The self-control Martin's family is displaying is admirable.
[Hi, InTheGarden - And aren't we glad that Zimmerman has no self-discipline? No way could he maintain self-control. He's a loose cannon, alright.]
Nan11~~here is where I found the info re Judge Lester's recusal. I posted this Source on July 15th also.
O'Mara Requests New Judge in George Zimmerman Case
Was GZ told not to comunicate either direct or indirect with Trayvons family.Last night he appoligised to them an said he prayed for them each day..I M O THATS comunicateing with them.O K he didnt doorstep them or phone them txt them..But he sent them a message vis natinal television.That they would receive if they watched or not.Once again he is writting his own rules an should be thrown back in prison for contempt..That will end his sky high security Bills
[Yes, he was told, ecossie, but I don't think it's really all that much of a big deal. Not enough to throw him back in jail, in my opinion. The state doesn't need to be perceived by the public as overdoing it.]
Ecossie~~ if the following is classed as indirect or direct communication, then I believe it is a misdemeanor and he may end up back in the slammer. I am sure someone has brought this to the attention of De La Rionda. There is also that perjury charge that the state can file against Z.
And I do want to tell everyone, my wife, my family my parents, my grandmother, the Martins, the city of Sanford and America, that I'm sorry that this happened. I hate to think that because of this incident, because of my actions, it's polarized and divided America and I'm truly sorry."
STATE'S RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT'S VERIFIED MOTION TO DISQUALIFY TRIAL JUDGE in pdf
These Fox guys are really laughable.
They have Catholic Georgie—spiritual Georgie--right up there next to Mother Theresa. Little innocent, altar boy Georgie. Yep, a spiritual self-confessed killer. Law enforcement took one gun away from him, and he went out and bought another, a bigger and better one--with the donations from his fans.
He was on his way back to his truck when the bad kid jumped him—breaking Georgie’s nosey and banging Georgie’s wittle head into the pavement at least a dozen times!!!
After all, one witness saw this they say. (One witness out of how many, when all the witnesses are changing their respective stories and hinting at being told what to say?)
It’s all the ‘main-stream’ media’s fault. Just like in the case of the murderess—none of us are capable of reading the discovery and understanding it. We need them to tell us what to believe, apparently.
Poor wittle Georgie.
The story Fox is putting out is all malarkey. Total bullpoop. MOO
Did George Zimmerman help or hurt his case?
I'm having some computer problems and I've got more heart tests this morning, so I've got to get ready. I think I downloaded the wrong audio driver and my system restore is not working. I'll be back later this afternoon. I will have my iPad with me.
Good luck, Dave! I hope the tests go well.
[Thanks, Molly, all went well, but it sure did leave me drained for a couple of days. My stamina is shot.]
Something has preemted George. Oh, well. If we can stomach it, we will get to see it; and the prosecutors will get to subpoena it.
Orlando Sentinel - More Zimmerman/Hannity interview to be on the web today
Quote: Expect more from that Sean Hannity interview with George Zimmerman later today.
A spokeswoman for Fox News said Hannity has scrapped plans to air the rest of that interview on his 9 p.m. show. Instead, his prime-time show will be about the movie theater massacre in suburban Denver. End Quote
Dave~~my focus is not on Zimmerman today. I put a quickie post up at my blog. It is terrible....DAMN Guns and deranged people... I will link directly to CNN rather than my blog...
Gunman kills 12 in Colorado movie theater
[What a horror! That guy bought his guns legally, too.]
nan11, you are so right-it was bullpoop.
Someone said that Hannity was leading GZ in the answers. Giving him what to say before he said it. Hannity is in GZ's corner, as well as the FOXNews spinners who make Georgie boy out to be so spiritual. I wanted the barf bag watching the follow-up assessments by FOX's pundits and experts. Ugh.
Sherry, It was so OBVIOUS that SH was the ring leader in this joke of an interview! He was constantly leading GZ in his answers, heck, he spoke more than GZ! I NEVER watch fox and felt so sick to my stomach and dirty after! Their agenda was beyond obvious, you would have to blind not to see it Ugh! I am heartbroken over the recent senseless massacre of innocent people :( One thing we know for sure is that Georgie Porgie would say that this massacre was Gods will. GZ is a lying, manipulative, SOCIOPATH
Nail on head, Brandy! I agree with you in all of your points. If I have the news on its usually FOXNews but that is changing now.
This is a just a short opinion piece that reflects the view of many - (notice I didn't say masses) - on the events of this week.
Washington Post | Opinions - George Zimmerman’s ‘bizarre’ week
Quoted and Snipped: There was Zimmerman’s ill-advised “no regrets” interview Wednesday with Sean Hannity on Fox News.
There was his last-minute demand that same day that Barbara Walters of ABC News pay for a month’s hotel and security...
On Thursday, the man charged with second-degree murder sent a video message to “the masses” on his revived Web site,
..O’Mara later that day during that front-porch presser. End Quote
Part 2 of George and Hannity should be out any minute, I think.
Fox News: Web exclusive: Zimmerman talks mentoring
Here we are.
Well, I found the part with Mr. O'Mara strange. For one thing, it ends abruptly--I can't find any more, but maybe I'll look tomorrow when I'm in a better mood.
But, in the part where Hannity is questioning Mark about his motion to recuse the judge--at one point Mr. O'Mara says that he doesn't think the rule allows for the state to respond. What?
The state has already responded. I'm confused right now.
As far as the part with George--of course, he has a hoodie; and he felt President Obama's comment was a compliment. All right, then. {sigh}
I believe at one point while Mr. O'Mara was speaking, Georgie was even rolling his eyes--or else he was looking way up at the ceiling for some reason.
One more thing, Hannity goes on and on and on about the special prosecutor not putting the fact that Zimmerman had a broken nose in the indictment. I guess he hasn't read the evidence because no where does any medical report confirm that Georgie did have a broken nose. Fractured and possibly broken. Possibly.
I believe there is a difference.
Maybe it's me. I'll rethink this tomorrow.
O'Mara sees his motion to disqualify Judge Lester the same as R Hornsby... In that event the state would not be filing a motion to counteract the defense motion. The state sees the motion differently. Judge Lester is on vacation until the 27th. I guess we wont have an answer as to who is right or wrong until Lester responds. He has 30 days from the date of filing of the motion to do so.
Richard Hornsby is tweeting that it has been pointed out that George Zimmerman's first motion to recuse was based on a different section than his second motion, so he is saying the judge will have to step aside.
I understood a fracture nose is the same as a broken nose. The medical term is 'fracture'... the following is from wikipedia...A nasal fracture, commonly referred to as a broken nose, is a fracture of one of the bones of the nose.
Okay, but here is the motion, big as life.
07-17-12 | State's Response to Defendant's Verified Motion to Disqualify Trial Judge
Regarding the 'nose' business:
Quote Page 82 | 2nd paragraph: FF Livingston was told there was another patient in the back of the police car, later identified as Zimmerman. FF Livingston and EMT O’Rourke began to clean the blood off Zimmerman’s face and head so they could asses him. They discovered that Zimmerman had two lacerations on the back of his head and a possible broken nose. FF Livingston did not recall Zimmerman making any statements about what occurred while they were treating him. End Quote
There are better descriptions than this but this is the first one I located. Zimmerman's broken nose has never been confirmed because Zimmerman (somewhat conveniently, no?), never bothered to have it x rayed. It’s simply a case of his side against Trayvon’s. (iirc Mr. O’Mara used the best witness for the broken nose side in the 2nd bond hearing.)
And let us not forget the strange black and white picture of poor little Georgie; and the humongous band aids placed on the back of Georgie's scalp to cover the tiny little lacerations- 2cm & O.5cm, respectively. (Page 4.)
It's just like all his other fairy tales--he runs with whatever is working for him. Sean Hannity agrees that the broken nose works well, too.
I hope Trayvon broke his nose, and I wish he would have done more than that. imho
YouTube VIDEO | Published on Jul 20, 2012 by LLMPapa - A Liar With No Soul
Quote: Zimmerman needs to leave Trayvon Martin's parents alone with his self serving lies. End Quote
I so agree with the above quoted comment.
I think I get it, though. Mr. O’Mara is just saying that the State can make a motion if they want to, but that the judge should not consider it, when making his decision.
Fox News | Web-exclusive: Mark O’Mara on upcoming trial
Quote at about 5:49 minutes in: Mr. O’Mara: I’m sorry, let me back up a little bit.
Hannity: Sure.
Mr. O’Mara: My motion, that is now pending before the court—is a sworn motion by George, and I have attested to it to be in good faith. Judge Lester is to consider only that motion in deciding whether or not to recuse himself; and that is all he is to rely on.
Hannity: And obviously the State has put forward their motion not to have that happen. [cross talking]
Mr. O’Mara: I don’t believe that the rule allows for the State to respond. I think it is very clear that the judge is to decide immediately—not more than 30 days—on the face of our motion. End Quote
The above link takes you the second short video released last night. (And ends abruptly.) The following link will take you to the first part of last night’s release:
Fox News | Web exclusive: Zimmerman talks mentoring
FYI: I noticed the link I added last night takes you to coverage of the movie theatre disaster. Sorry for the confusion.
One more thing, if you are patient at the end of the first part of the video, the 2nd part with Mark O’Mara begins automatically—or you can us my first link in this comment. (Hope that makes sense.)
(Dave: Sorry for all the revisions I made to this comment. I don't know how it shows up in the background. You site is working good, though. )
Oops, it's me again. I'll add this link, then I'll be out of hear for a while--I promise.
This is an interesing video, (and I love the tune--Joe Cocker, I think.)
I think the person who made the video is coming from the position that possibly Zimmerman was not alone that night while on his way for 'groceries'; so, perhaps, there is a 'witness' that could corroborate the fact that Zimmerman stalked Trayvon, and was the first to approach Trayvon.
I believe it is just a 'personal' theory that the video creator has--so I hope it's okay to add it here.
YouTube VIDEO | Published on Jul 21, 2012 by LLMPapa | Let It Come Out, Zimmerman
Thank you for all the links, Nan. That last video is very interesting.
◦A broken nose can be diagnosed with X-rays, CT scan, or most commonly physical exam.
Source
Paramedics on the scene would diagnose a possible broken nose/fracture. A doctor would be the one to diagnose a fractured/broken nose.
I know we want to shed Z in the worst light as possible but we should give him a little benefit of the doubt to keep things fair.
When the defense in the Casey Anthony case filed a motion to disqualify Judge Stan Strickland due to Dave being called up to the bench, the state did not file a motion to counteract the defense motion.
The defense has 'one crack' so to speak to file a motion to disqualify a judge. If the judge is replaced and the defense decides to file another motion to get rid of the second judge, that judge does not have to recuse him/herself. The motion is kept on record in the event of a appeal later.
It is apparent that O'Mara considers the motion to disqualify Judge Lester, his first one because of how Hornsby and I tried to explain it in the link I provided upthread. Since the state filed a motion in the Lester case, they disagree with O'Mara and Hornsby or they just are not up on the rules of disqualifying a judge.
We will get our answer if and when Judge Lester steps down. The Florida laws are not the easiest to interpret.
Molly: Have you seen this one yet? It's too funny. Really, Mr. O'Mara needs to put a muzzle on his client. He really does.
YouTube VIDEO | Published on Jul 21, 2012 by LLMPapa - Zimmerman's Shimmy
Trayvon skips and he shimmys--Georgie is so pathetic.
Dave~~question.... When a crime is committed in the state of Florida, does the attorney you hire have to be licensed to practice in Florida? If so, what does it entail for an out of state attorney to get a license to practice in another state? I read so much misinformation on other blogs, my head spins.
[As the attorney of record, you must have a license in the state of Florida to practice law here. Like Baez. But that doesn't mean you can't hire guns from out of state, like Angela Lyons. I know attorneys in NJ who maintain their Fl Bar license so if they ever want to retire here, they can set up shop. In order to practice law in Florida, you must pass the Florida Bar exam, but that's if you are the lead attorney. That's my understanding.]
LOL Nan11 !!!!!! Shimmy
nan11 Thank you for all those links.
I have to say I agree with Snoopy, we should give Mr. Zimmerman the benefit of the doubt. Mr. Zimmerman did not give it to Trayvon and look how that turned out. As far as the broken nose is concerned his Doctor said likely, for the life of me I do not understand why Mr. Zimmerman would not go get an x-ray. The police were still investigating the shooting and it seems like he would want to prove as much injury as possible so there would be no question as to the self defense.
Meggie broke her nose once and they had to set it. Don't they have to set all broken noses? Will he have problems later if it were broke and he did not have it set?
We had a bitter pill to swallow when Casey A was acquitted of Murder One. I recall telling a contributor on my blog to be prepared for a decision that she may not like before the verdict was handed down in C A's trial. In a court of law there is no such thing anymore as a 'slam dunk'. I read blogs that are both pro and con Zimmerman. In that way, you can pick up some pretty good information from both sides and get a feel of what all the masses are saying. Check out the poll below... Many people do not put much faith in polls but who knows, they may give us a hint as to where this case may be headed as per the public's perception.
Should Judge Kenneth Lester step down in the Case Against George Zimmerman?
Yes(68%)
No(32%)
Source
JMO... could the defense claim the following?
George Zimmerman said he had no regrets about what transpired the evening of Feb 26th. If Z had said yes that he did have regrets, would he not be admitting that he was at fault in what took place?
George Z mentioned God's plan. Was his words taken out of context? Did he mean it was God's plan that he ended up alive?
My sister had her nose broken in a car accident and they never set it, nor did they do an xray. However with her nose, it had bled like crazy, everything she was wearing was red. I have read that apparently broken noses dont always bleed, and had I been George i would have certainly made sure my dr did an xray so he had proof. Altho then you have to say that this never looked like he was in trouble with this the day after all this went down. And in fact the only reason he went to see his dr was to get a note so he could return to work. That again just like everything in this case shows no remorse. Really you kill a young boy and you just want to get back to work, somethings not right with George. And his statement in his tv interview was that he didnt even know Trayvon was dead. Why did he have no concern whatsoever for the young boy who laid there lifeless ! He is seated in a back seat of a cop car and he isnt asking any questions about how serious it is. Its just all too bizarre to me
Remember recently the story of the guy who was raping a 5 yr old girl and the little girls dad caught him in the act and beat the guy severely . Could you have instant hate for a man who raped this little girl ? I sure could. And yet this man BEGGED for an ambulance to get there as fast as they could.
I dont give zimmerman a lot of leeway in his actions for the night but once I read his dr said he probably had a broken nose I am not sure we have any grounds to dispute that. But I hope zimmerman keeps on talking, he is gonna dig his own hole.
[I agree with you, Elmosmommy.]
Ok I'm putting this in here because I'm in a snarky mood, and this post was about the interview that GZ had to promote his website and get donations. I don't go to other blogs about the case but if I did I think I'd sneak in and just type in
Instead of wasting your money on The Real George Zimmerman donation page donate here instead. They need it more.
Colorado victims fund
nuff said. It's off my shoulders now.
I wish we could do so much more to help the victims and their families, Connie. Thank you for the link.