Either Way
While attending court on Wednesday, I noticed a big difference in how Casey’s defense presented itself as opposed to past hearings. It was a dramatic improvement. It was also the first time I saw Dorothy Clay Sims, the Ocala attorney who specializes in aggressive cross-examinations of medical experts. She joined Casey’s team in September of last year. We will be hearing much more from her as we approach the trial, I’m sure.
On Thursday, Judge Perry opened the hearing by admonishing the gallery. He reminded everyone he does not want to see any smirking or hear any snickering. This includes moans, sighs and any sort of reaction that deviates from quietly sitting still and behaving ourselves. One thing I admire about him is the manner in which he handles issues on the surface. He seems to be rather uncomfortable with singling any person or group out. I would imagine if and when it ever reaches that point, the person(s) on the receiving end won’t be happy.
Thus began the day filled with testimony from detectives, deputies, jailers and the two Anthony men. When I arrived on the 19th floor, I expected to see a good number of OCSO’s finest, and I did. The first one I noticed was Sgt. John Allen, the lead investigator of this case. We had warm greetings and a firm handshake as we crossed paths. If you recall, Sgt. Allen interviewed me in December 2009 and I’ve spoken with him several times by phone since then; the last call was made in November 2010 concerning an idiotic conspiracy being promulgated on another blog.
I have an awful lot of respect for Sgt. Allen for several reasons. He made me feel very comfortable during our initial meeting. He was professional and courteous. He knew how to ask the right questions and he allowed time to talk about other things of interest, some personal, but mostly about the case. For instance, when Casey was initially arrested and all leads pointed to finding a victim, he and over 100 law enforcement personnel continued to search around the country for a living Caylee. You could clearly sense his dedication, focus and concern. No one ever gave up hope until after her remains were found. What I walked away with that December day was a good understanding of the man and the challenges he faces every day. I recall how OCSO and other personnel were castigated by family members for not doing more to find Caylee, but I knew they were. All they wanted was the truth.
I also had an opportunity to speak briefly to Cmdr. Matt Irwin and Cpl. Yuri Melich. During a more lengthy break, I had a good conversation with another detective, Cpl. Eric Edwards. Great guys, all. Of course, nothing about the case was discussed. Actually, the police had to wait outside the courtroom for two days waiting to be called. It’s my understanding that during the entire time, they were in limbo. In other words, no working on any present investigations. Everything was on hold. It seems like so much wasted time, but such is the case when charges are filed and trials ensue. It comes with the territory.
Agents of the State?
Just like I wrote in my previous post, I do not intend to relate a play-by-play account of what transpired in the courtroom. I will proffer my thoughts on the overall scheme of events and what the defense was after. The day before, it was the Miranda warning. On Thursday, it was Agents of the State.
First off, I think the M.O. of a cop is pretty simple. Cops do what cops do. They investigate. They uphold the law. They do a lot more than that, but let’s just stick with investigating and upholding the law for now, especially when the defense questioned both job descriptions. I understand what Jose & Co. were engaging in and while Wednesday may offer them hope, I’m not all that sure about Thursday. Taking a look at one of the angles Jose pressed was how he took it personally when the detectives allegedly told George his daughter could have found a much better attorney. OK, fine. So what? As soon as Casey lawyered up, she wasn’t going to open up to authorities any longer. That’s a given. Who she hired meant nothing because any attorney worth his/her weight in salt would have severed direct communications with law enforcement personnel, so who it was and how good or bad the person was wouldn’t have mattered. Cops and criminal defense attorneys are like oil and vinegar. Anything the law wants to find out from that point on just ain’t gonna transpire.
Because police act the way they do, they usually try any trick in the book to find answers. That’s what private investigators do, too. Short of anything illegal, that’s the name of the game. If you ever watch COPS, you’ll know that any and all people involved in suspicious activity are questioned separately. More information is collected that way. In this case, detectives knew that George was once in law enforcement and, naturally, he would be a better fit when it came to collecting additional information. He understood the lingo. As for Lee… well, Lee is a different breed of animal, but I feel that law enforcement sensed his desire to pursue the field of investigative work. Whether he’s a cop wannabe or not, he created his own agenda. He sure played into their hands. Remember, Dominic Casey told him to work on becoming a PI. There were two willing family members with George and Lee. Where it gets tricky is when the OCSO detectives offered to pick up George and drive him to the county jail to see his daughter, knowing that Baez was out-of-town. That in itself is not a big deal, but it is sneaky. Still, it’s nothing illegal. Where it becomes an issue, in my opinion, is when the detectives told Jose under oath that driving George to the jail was not an official trip. It was only to help him find the truth.
Hold on for a second… Uh… Hmm. Not an official trip. It most certainly was an official trip for four reasons:
- It was a county vehicle filled with gas paid for by the county.
- It was tape recorded without George’s knowledge.
- George was accompanied by two detectives and one FBI agent.
- Everything law enforcement does related to an investigation is most certainly part of the investigation.
Astutely, Jose asked why they would tape record the trip if it was not part of an investigation. He asked if any of them had ever done the same thing for any other person. Was it done out of the goodness of their hearts? He also put one of his former attorneys on the stand. Gabriel Adam may have had a problem with attorney/client privilege, but he was quick to point out the strange goings-on at the jail that day. Why was he not allowed to see Casey until much later? Because the detectives were in the building, setting up an appointment with dear old dad.¹ In the end, she did not see her father that day, she listened to her attorney’s advice, but I still find something to be a little bit problematic. Why say it wasn’t part of any investigation when, in fact, it was? That’s what cops do, after all. Is it enough to win the motion for the defense? No, not in my opinion and I’ll tell you why. While little lies may come into play during the trial, at issue now is whether the Anthony family was surreptitiously swallowed up by law enforcement to, unwittingly, do dirty deeds at their behest. Did they become Agents of the State?
No.
As desperate as law enforcement was to find the answers, so were the Anthonys. On the stand, all members of the family said they would have done anything to bring Caylee home. This was long before she was found. As a matter of fact, here is a direct quote from George:
“I would have sold my soul to the devil to get my grandchild back.”
They were in complete agony, yes, but as far as I’m concerned, if the Anthonys were Agents of the State, those detectives were just as much Agents for the Anthonys. Yuri Melich and John Allen were the only security blankets the family had at the time, if not all of them, then certainly George. What those detectives did was what they do every day. Sgt. Allen summed it up nicely:
“We were doing this at their request but certainly anything that if we had got of evidentiary value we would have used it and turned it over to the prosecutors.”
Another potential issue is the letter Casey wrote to then Sheriff Kevin Beary. Did the detectives coerce George into convincing her to do it without Jose Baez’s knowledge? Even so, should it matter? No one twisted her arm, and the police had no direct contact. That’s why this “agent” thing is such a big deal to the defense. If they can link the police directly to Casey, it could, potentially, mess with attorney/client privilege. Sgt. Allen told Lee on numerous occasions that “she has an attorney, we can’t talk to her but you can.”
Will the defense win this one? I’m inclined to think not. Everything up to that point was done voluntarily, all players were adults, and they shared one common goal - to bring Caylee home. The Anthonys were willing to do whatever it took and, in the end, the bottom line is simple. The police work for us. Right?
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One of the nice things about being able to sit in the courtroom is that there is so much more to see than what’s viewed on television. The added depth and dimension are huge advantages. Jose posed a hypothetical question to George. He wanted to know, if he was subpoenaed to testify in court next week, knowing that if he chooses not to attend, it would save his daughter’s life, what would he do? Linda Drane Burdick vehemently objected. The judge overruled and wanted to know George’s answer. He told the prosecutor it could be discussed in a sidebar after he answered the question. Jose asked him again. George replied that he would stay away from court and risk it all, including any form of punishment, if it meant it would save Casey’s life. He broke down on the stand and cried all the way out the door after he was excused.
Ultimately, the judge overruled the prosecutor again after the sidebar, but what you couldn’t see or sense on TV was the emotional state of the gallery at that precise moment in time. The cameras couldn’t show you the welling tears of some of the spectators. It was then that we really felt the agony inside of that man. It was real. For whatever you think of him, this is something we can never deny.
If the defense succeeds in acquitting Casey, one thing is certain. It will never be the same. As cruel and distant as she has become toward her family, who she ignores, she will most assuredly never, ever go back to Hopespring Drive and what she left behind. No, George, she may win, but you will never be able to go back. Either way, for you, Cindy and Lee, it will be a lose/lose situation. Caylee already lost.
I want to say hello and thank you to my courtroom friends on Wednesday and Thursday. I had planned on attending Friday, too, but I had other obligations that almost slipped my mind. Hello to Diana in Asheville! I wish we would have had more time to talk. To Gloria and Jim, I enjoyed our “lunch” together and I look forward to hearing from you soon. And to Melinda and Pam, I really, really enjoyed your company.
Reader Comments (85)
Hi Marsha - I have no idea what the problem was with commenting last night, but it seems to have remedied itself.
The bottom line on Lee? Yes, I think he will spill the beans. I think he already has, as a matter of fact. Remember when he went back to the SAO and made that deal? When it comes right down to it, his parents have no right to attack him for just telling the truth. If they do, they are parents I wouldn't want to know or have.
Thank you so much, Glenda. Your help is truly, truly appreciated.
I agree with you, there is such a thing as courtroom protocol and decorum. If George behaves badly, he will get a stern lecture from the judge one day. Yup, Casey seems to be relishing in it all. What a shame.
Dave~ Why would he? Everyone from his family to complete strangers make excuses for his actions. It surprises me Caylee made it as long as she did. He knew what he smelled, George can deny all he wants but from what I have been told death is a smell all on it's own, no confusing.
If George and Cindy really believed in Casey's innocence their story would have never changed. They would not be trying to cover. We all know they do, but if Casey is really innocent why would they have to? They have been doing it since they realized where all the evidence pointed. At that time the death penalty was not on the table. So since I am so opinionated I will say that lying is just part of who they are. And it obviously does not matter who those lies hurt. Caylee is their very own grand-daughter and they are lying about the very thing that took her away from them.
By the way I am glad you made it back in here. Sucks to get locked out I bet, I hope to never find out :).
Good morning, Laura - The problem just came back and I already sent a message to Squarespace.
I agree wholeheartedly with you. If Casey were innocent, why would lies be necessary. What's that saying?... The truth shall set you free!
Yeah, it sucks to be locked out.
Hi Dave,
Are you going to the hearing today? Have a nice day!!
Yes, I plan on going, Janet. Thank you. You have a nice day, too.
Well written Dave... thank you for your insight into the case...... look forward to your next article....
Thank you very much, eviemae. I should probably have an article up tomorrow about today's events. I still have something to say about Friday, too, but I will be in the courtroom today.</b?
Hello everyone! I am just checking to see if this blog is going to be tempermental today.
Dave, I will be watching for you in the courtroom. I have a gut feeing that this may turn into a very interesting day full of surprises. I am just hoping they are good surprises for the state.
Hello Snoopy! It's temperamental for me, that's for sure.
I don't know if there will be any surprises or not, but then again, I don't think this judge likes surprises. It should prove to be an interesting hearing, though, any way we look at it.
Hello Everyone. Wonderful article Dave! Each time I read your articles and see how fair you are to everyone involved, I can' help but think of what was done to Judge Strickland. Lee was given immunity, wasn't he? That may account for some of his nervous laughing. He may have many more secrets to tell and I think he is probably more upset over this than we will ever know. He seems to be trying to distance himself and he may be the only family member that accepts that Casey did this-. I can't help but wonder if George will survive the real trial. He, Cindy and Lee will be witnesses for the prosecution then. It is just all so sad and Casey does not seem to have a clue or care about what she has done. Thanks Dave For all you do. Don't forget to take care of yourself.
Hello Margaret! Great to see you. Yes, Lee was given immunity in exchange for nothing but the truth. To anyone who thinks that can be interpreted as selling out, the truth is, Casey sold her family out long ago. Who's cashing in those chips now? Not her. As for George, he has got to be strong for his own sake. Whatever it is that will happen is something he's going to have to learn to live with. I hope and pray he's a survivor.
Thank you for your kind words. I strive to be fair and that is something Judge Strickland saw in me. I have nothing but respect for him and what he stands for. He's a man of great integrity. I do try to take care of myself. I've got to keep myself as healthy as possible.
Hi Dave
When Judge Perry was admonishing folks about outbursts and facial expressions I'm surprised he didn't mention NO GUM CHEWING IN A COURTROOM ! Geez those Anthonys chew gum like a herd of cows. Also, I saw one of Jose's female employees, sitting directly behind Casey, who was frequently texting. Would've thought that was also verboten.......hmmm maybe there's some leniency until the actual trial starts??
I don't know about chewing gum in Judge Perry's courtroom, but it was a problem in Judge Strickland's. When Perry took over, we were given a sheet of rules and I'm sure gum was on there somewhere.
BILL SHEAFFER: Pre-Analysis Of Final Arguments In Casey Hearing
Mr. Sheaffer weighs in on the positive side!
Dave: I'm looking forward to your next post already. Yes, you need to keep yourself healthy. And I don't mean just because we need you to cover the trial for us. :)
Thanks for the link, nan11. I just watched it and I agree with him.
I hope to have a post up by tomorrow afternoon. It was an eye opener. Thanks for putting your faith in me.
IMO, Casey really showed that she is ice cold when she didn't show any emotion at the sight of her father emotionally strung out. She really has a heart of stone.
And you know, Marsha, the jury is going to see that, too.
Dave--in ref to why the judge is hearing arguments today...Maybe Cheney Mason is going to argue and asked for the extra time...he obviously wasn't feeling very good.
I don't know exactly why, Phyllis, but I sure am glad he did. It was an informative day. I've got some studying to do tomorrow morning.
Can't wait for your take on all this, Dave. Can you guys in the room hear Mason better than we can at home? Still, anything's better than if Jose was the one attempting to tackle Case Law...
I heard him just fine today, Karen. There were a couple of moments when it was tough to hear him, but he was OK. I thought he did a fine job, actually.
From Richard Hornsby:
http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2011/03/the-theory-of-the-defense/
One of the sessions I attended during that seminar was titled “The Theory of the Defense.” That session was taught by none other than a Mr. J. Cheney Mason, Esq.
I read that, Janet. Very good. We can always count on Richard for a good post. This one shed a lot of light on Mr. Mason.
Great write up however I have to say that the TV showed things that most likely you couldnt
see in court and that is George Anthony did not have tears in his eyes, none! Atleast not when he was on the stand. A whole lot of drama but No tears!
Thank you, G.C.G. I don't know about his tears, though. When he walked by us in the gallery, his eyes were wet and his face was red. I don't think a TV can show you the same thing. I don't think anyone in the courtroom was oblivious to his pain. I'm not defending him, I'm just telling it like I saw it, and I wasn't alone.
Well, it's hard for me to have any sympathy for George Anthony, its more so for the people who has Caylee's voice and who has her back now. I can only imagine the horror Caylee lived with on a daily basis and ultimately paying with her life. Dysfuntion killed her and it had to start somewhere!
George had a chance to parent, and he blew it. Hardly setting an example for his children, but
focused more on himself and his addictions and compulsions which in turn is most likely the reason why he couldnt keep a job. So, his tears are for himself, his guilt is eating at him and will for the rest of his life. I find it hard to feel for someone like that. If anything, he contributed to where his daughter is now. I also believe George lied to the GJ about seeing Casey leave with Caylee to help protect his wife and remove himself from any responsiblity. HE stepped forward and tried his best to throw his own daughter under the bus, even throwing out to LE that she stole money from Caylee's piggie bank. I found that very suspect to say the least, trying to do whatever he can to take focus off of his addictions, gambling and thensome. So, no. I did not feel sorry for him, I felt for all of us who want to see justice served and who is emotionally attached to this case. Thanks for what you do, you sometimes give a sense of reality when needed however, i'd love to see you approach Cindy and or George and ask them some tough questions, questions you know what we all want to know. If that is obtained, that would truly set you apart as being
a voice for Caylee Marie Anthony!!! Go for it!
Regardless of what you think about the family, did George really deserve all this? No, of course not. No matter what he's done, you cannot deny him his love for Caylee. No one bothers George and Cindy at the courthouse. By that, I mean the media. Any official line of questioning would have to go through their attorney first. Just remember, George is not on trial here. His daughter is. Also, it was his testimony in front of the grand jury that helped to indict her.
Hi Dave,
Hope you and your family are well. Wrote on the the last blog and don't think it went over. I do think G&C are being combatitive with the state. Lee did hold his own. George should be a lilltle more respectful to the court. Surprised, Judge Perry has not yet made mention to that. Not buying all the crap the defense is trying to pursue. Casey is acting like her own attorney - the note writing is getting very pathetic. It's so obvious that she is disgusted with her fiamily - what a sad situation. In regard to your response about Mason, I do not think he did a good job. Just my opinion. Baez shocked me with his cross with the detectives, actually did a favorable job. In the end if they throw all these statements out, there is still so much evidence that can convict Casey.
Allways great wrtings and thanks, Take care.
Hi Simba - I don't know what happened to your comment, but several people, including myself, have had issues with commenting.
For sure, G&C are combative. One day, the judge will say he's had enough. For now, they're through testifying. I hope their attorney can keep them toned down during the trial because it will make a difference to the jury.
I don't know what's up with Casey's incessant writing, but she's allowed to do it. You know, she loves talking and she can't do it there, so she writes instead. I'm going to be writing about yesterday's hearing and how Mason and LDB did. You take care, too.
Boom! goes the dynomite!
Trust me, everyone, I am not an agent for the defense, nor am I one for George and Cindy. Personally, I'd rather tackle the hearings and subsequent trial than the family of the defendant. You are free to voice your opinions, but in the end, it is Casey that matters, and that's only because she is the one sitting in jail, charged with her daughter's death.
Dave, what do you think are the chances of Cindy and George being kept out of the court room during the trial until they testify? Their attorney filed a motion to have them kept in there because they are the victim's family.
I think the chances are very good if they are to be called later in the trial, but once they testify, I think they will be able to sit in. I need to read the motion, though, and I'm still working on yesterday's hearing.
Hi, it was nice seeing you the other day. Sorry I could'nt of talk. Busy on the phone.. I will email you soon. Stay in touch :)
I am curious as to what you all think Lee knows to spill the beans about? Why was he given immunity? What does he know?
Marsha, I think Lee was given "use immunity" which is given to anyone who gets a subpeona to testify or give a deposition. I think it means that whatever he testifies too can't be used against him, but if someone else testifies that can impeach his testimony, then they can use it against him. If I am wrong on this, will someone please correct me.
I don't think Cindy, George or Lee should be allowed in the court room until they are all done testifying. I hope JP does the same thing he did for those hearings last week.
Dave, thank you for another fine write-up from the courtroom. I have one question for you. Do you think that if Casey is actually running late again due to clothing, the judge will follow thru with his threat and make her come into the courtroom in her jailhouse clothes??
I don't doubt that the clothes arrived late, but I can picture Casey taking forever looking in the mirror and fussing with whatever she is brought to wear. Just my two cents from watching her mannerisms!
Dave,
Comes now one of the most important rulings of the case thus far. Although the defense made a valid argument i am curious if they are not cinching up their own rope. It would seem that in the begining stages of the investigation the primary focus was, obviously, to find Caylee but LE did not factor that the custodial parent would start a birrage of lies starting with ZFG.
It would seem to me that if you are contacted that a child is missing and that a "nanny" is the culprit it would seem reasonable to anyone that questions would need to be asked to the mother...no matter how hard the questions were. Baez, IMO, is trying to bend the timeline of events. The entire Anthony family was pointing fingers and none of the fingers pointed back to the daughter who, even according to her mom, was a habitual liar!!
I was unable to watch the 3 days of proceedings but what i was able to catch is pretty much what everyone here has pointed out.
I think CA did a very good job. I did not find her to be combative or uncooperative. You can tell she didnt want to be there and she tried several times to get KC attention which, IMO, went un-noticed by KC.
GA is a stick of dynamite that will explode. He is a ticking time bomb of sorts and, IMO, he needs to seperate his two lives. 1 as an ex-police officer who has knowledge and 2 being a parent. I know i wouldnt want to be in his shoes and I'd hope he'd do anything so his daughter did not get the DP but i hope that does not entail lying in court??
LA was very good and i found it odd the attention he garnered from his sister?? For a guy who supposedly molested her she sure was happy when he took the stand but it soon changed when he began to tell the truth. Like you Dave, i cant pin his alliances (whether he is pro defense or pro prosecution) but i can see him doing what is right.
YM was fantastic even with the Freudian Slips Baez try to trip him up on. I did not get the opportunity ot see the other officers testimony so i hope to watch it soon.
Great article no matter!!
Thank you, B-Man - As you can see, I've posted a new article. I think the first thing I would pay attention to would be her lack of distress or any emotion that would have shown herself to be concerned. That would have made her a suspect right away, as far as I'm concerned. Thanks!
Darn it, I made comment while forgetting to login !!!
Dang! I hate it when that happens.
Dear Dave, my heart breaks for George, when I see him breaking up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BUT he is transferring his anger in the wrong place. Melich and the other officers are not the ones to blame here. I went back and read George's transcripts and interviews and it seemed to me, when George was alone with them, he was giving them information they did not even ask for. When he was interviewed alongside Cindy he would clam up and only say what he absolutely had to. IMO George is a different person when she is present. George needs to man up and put the blame where it belongs. I don't think he will ever survive if he doesn't face the truth. Lee seems to have come to terms with it but he still whispered" I love you" as he walked by her after testifying and she was so cold and self centered she did not even look at him. Casey is the one that is so cold it does not bother her when her Dad cries because he has to try to defend her. It only makes her mad because they say it was all about Caylee, not one tear have I seen. Casey could stop all the anger and pain she is putting her family through but she is enjoying every minute of it. You could see her anger escalate when Lee said "maybe", she was writing with a vengence.I could imagine in that instant, her anger with little helpless Caylee. She is going to make George and Cindy suffer the rest of their lives even if she is in prison. I do feel for George and Cindy, but they are not helping themselves by blaming law enforcement for somthing Casey is totally responsible for. It is going to be so bad for them sitting through this trial, listening to everything being said. I pray they will be strong enough to sit throuh it and come out of it with some kind of life.
I agree with you, Margaret, and that's why they should be sequestered during the trial. I hope they question him first so she won't be around to hear and watch him.
You are right Dave, George didnt deserve anything, either did Caylee! I know George isnt the one on trial,,,,Atleast not yet! I just found his behavior inappropriate, and he is extremely defensive. It is getting old now. Perhaps i'm way off base or just plain disqusted. I've never seen such
disrespect to the court and to Caylee in general...: (
Yes, the family could use some lessons in humility. I still don't think anyone would want to change places with them. I wouldn't. I mean, it's got to be a real horror to be so torn up inside.
Dave!
If you haven't read Dr. Lillian Glass's blog tonight, you must! It is SO FUNNY!She was discussing how the Anthony's dressed for court these past few days. Anyway, she said Lee looked bad picking his ZITS, and said that he looked like he might have CRABS OR SCABIES!!! Said he needed to wear a nice shirt and tie to court...Casey should NOT try to look SEXY in her too tight sweaters...anyway, check it out! Keep up ur fantastic writing!!
Picking his zits??? And crabs??? Well, that's enough evidence right there that Casey is guilty. I trust the good doctor passed this information on to the proper authorities.
Hi Dave & Everyone,
Another wonderful write up Dave, thanks. I have only had time to read a few comments. I enjoy others input and ideas.
Laurali,
You think the way I do but you put it into words much better than I could.
Hi Frankie! I hope you like my new post, too. Thank you, I try my best to put things into words.
Frankie~ do you mean blunt? I try tact but it seems like that comes across as me tolerating their outrageous behavior. I am glad there is more people like me, I was beginning to think I might be an opinionated biotch. LOL
Laurali,
It is what it is. I have said all along how I look at the situation and the people involved but no one ever agreed or acknowledged my opinions. I noticed that you seem to be like minded. You are open but you are not a biotch. I'm not too good at tact either. LOL I say, tell it how you see it.
I saw Casey look back also, then write something. She probably said "that blogger is here again" lol. Since seeing Judge Perry's segment on the Black Widow case he was prosecutor on - the first woman to be executed in the state of Florida - I wondered if they would try to get him recused for anything he said on it, but Perry played it close to the vest and only talked about that one woman, not the dp or his opinion of it.
I wondered about all the writing Casey's been doing also. I came to the conclusion she's either writing a book/memoirs for herself or someone else, or her psychoanalyst has told her to keep track of her feelings during the trial. It does seem she's listening because during cross she sent some notes to Baez and Mason after having a reaction to Melich in particular on the stand.
Looking forward to the next article.
Frankie~ My grandmother made me the way I am. She said if I held it in I would have high blood pressure. Don't know how true but I rarely stress over something I wish I would have said but didn't. I will have to pay more attention to the comments. I do not always read them because after reading Dave's post I am usually ready to pounce. Now I am off to bed, filled lots of sand bags today to help some elderly folks with the floods we are having. My arms are still twitching.....
Feather: let me just say I loved your post up-thread!!
I wish I could muster something as intelligent!! Although we can scrutinize the timeframe in which KC transformed from victim to suspect is a tiny window. IMO there was really no transformation she was always the suspect. What LE did was allow her enough rope to hang herself and provide the shovel to dig herself a hole. Judge Perry will consider the fact that CA called primarily because of theft and wound up being a missing persons. First order of business was to address the initial complaint and, at the same time, the missing persons. Obviously the theft claims were substantiated so she will be arrested and given her Miranda Rights but wait, here’s where I think you can consider hypocrisy. If the investigation up to the point in August was virtually completed why didn’t the defense bring this up in August nearly a month after her CA screamed THIEF? There had to be a reason to take her away in handcuffs…while investigators are investigating the disappearance of Caylee there was no “real” reason to take her away. YM said it best in that “she was the mother of a missing child so I had no reason to doubt her, why would she lie?”
If one was to get technical about the Miranda Rights she wasn’t read the rights concerning her daughter’s disappearance till October the August reading would only relate to the theft so you can’t combine although I understand the premise.
The law was designed so that we keep the innocent out of jail. It wasn’t designed to complicate the sh!t out of everything. LE job was complicated by the continuous lies being wretched by KC. LE should be commended on the job they did to bring justice not condemned.
In the end, in what I believe Dave is trying to point out, that the case against KC is a puzzle and the statements she made are just pieces of the puzzle. The state has extra pieces to complete the puzzle. We should all remember that the statements gathered from friends and family cannot be excluded and, just maybe, their statements had no real value a few months ago they do now.
But I wanted to point one thing that, I’m pretty sure those who watched notice and have even commented on, which is/was KC demeanor at the hearing…pick a day :-). As many of you also pointed out she seemed to be un-caring for those who appeared on her behalf. It seemed as though she expected them to be there for no reason other than for her. Often times, if the camera would allow it, every time Caylee’s name was brought up there was no regard for her. No emotion. She seemed empathetic to her daughter in which she is charged for her death. Cold. Of course I am looking at this in the comforts of my armchair but if I was being accused of something I DIDN’T DO you can bet you sweet ass I’d be saying something to someone and not just writing. I’d be noticeably tearing up and showing emotion. I think I would go as far as a couple outbursts so that everyone knew how much I objected to what was being said, hell if I’m behind bars what do I have to lose right??