Casey McDingles
Wednesday, October 20, 2010 at 9:29PM HERE’S WHAT REAL WITNESS TAMPERING IS ALL ABOUT
There is a no-brainer running around like a chicken without its head who insists she knows what witness tampering is all about. She doesn’t, and this will serve to quash any and all rumors she keeps firing into wasted Internet bandwidth. At the same time, it will explain exactly what it is. Merely interviewing someone is not. Suggesting they change the truth most assuredly is.
In reality, two Texas EquuSearch volunteers told WFTV that a private investigator working for the defense tried to manipulate them into changing their stories about what transpired down along Suburban Drive in September of 2008.
Brett Churchill and Brett Reilly have accused PI Jeremiah Lyons of slinging words their way that would cause them to alter their testimony about searching the area where Caylee’s remains were found three months later by Roy Kronk, another defense target.
According to the WFTV report, Lyons was recently in court examining EquuSearch records. The station reports that he’s keeping low key while talking to volunteers who are not very happy about it.
In this case, both volunteers are prosecution witnesses. Churchill has been deposed by the defense and Reilly has talked on record to investigators. Both have stated that the exact area where the toddler was discovered was under water and unsearchable at the time. According to Churchill, Lyons went to his house and lied about Reilly’s story. “He basically was asking me if what I said in my deposition was the exact story because he had others who fared differently, one of them being Brett Reilly.”
Reilly had earlier warned Lyons not to twist his words after witnessing what Casey’s defense had done to others involved in the case. Lyons promised him he wouldn’t.
Let me tell you, from first-hand experience, I know all about what a professional manipulator Jerry Lyons is. They don’t get any slicker, but in my case, the defense ended up with the short end of the stick. What he succeeded in doing was to somewhat change the tenor of this court. It abruptly went from Strickland to stricter. Strickland to stricter… trust me, they will be words that linger.
The report also states that Reilly complained to Cheney Mason and that both volunteers contacted the sheriff’s office.
A DATE WITH CASEY
Great news is coming right up for those who want to see what Casey’s new tooth looks like. She is slated to appear at next week’s hearing, which will be at 1:30 pm on the 29th. It had been scheduled to be a status hearing, but with her attendance announced, it signaled that there would be more to the hearing than just an update from the attorneys. She has not been in court since her mother and brother took the stand back in July. Of course, plain old status hearings don’t require her presence.
What this should mean is that Judge Perry will hear several arguments, two of which should be the simultaneously filed MOTION TO DETERMINE REASONABLE BUDGET FOR DUE PROCESS COSTS IN A CAPITAL CASE AND MOTION TO INCUR CERTAIN SPECIFIED COSTS filed recently by new attorney Ann Finnell, and quite possibly the prior rulings over the public’s access to Casey’s jail records. This would include phone calls, visitor logs and commissary purchases. In my opinion only, I don’t care if she pigs out on nachos or not. I do not need to know how many hair barrettes, hair pins, hair claws, banana hair clips or how many other products she buys, including female doodads. With the latest ruling in south Florida, this information may have to be rerouted through the state and released through document dumps instead of coming directly from the jail. Hopefully, I will know more about that soon.
With regard to the budget request made by Finnell, the funding agency, the JAC (Justice Administration Commission) doesn’t like her cost estimates. The commission filed a response last week that questions some of the estimates as being too high and others that shouldn’t be billed to taxpayers. In a post I published two weeks ago, I wrote:
The distance between Jacksonville and Orlando, from her office to the jail, is 145 miles each way. The distance from her office to Fort Myers is roughly 300 miles. She anticipates at least one trip per month to Orlando and back, and at least two trips to Fort Myers. Overnight lodging is expected for the trips to Fort Myers and some of the trips to Orlando, all of which is feasible. She’s asking for $4,000.00. Let’s see… a round trip from Jax to O’do runs about $134.00. Jax to Ft. Myers would be double that - $268.00. We are 7-8 months away from showtime, so 7-8 Orlando trips would run… let’s give her the benefit of the doubt and say 8 months. 8 trips would cost almost $1,100.00. To Fort Myers and back twice would add up to around $540, bringing our total to $1,640.00, not including hotel stays, and I think it’s safe to assume she’s not going to spend the night at the No Tell Motel, but still, that’s over $2,400 in lodgings. Nope, that one should be questioned by the judge. If the court chooses to approve, it brings our tally much higher…
The JAC is requesting it shouldn’t have to foot the bill for attorneys’ travel expenses; that the costs should come out of the money the Baez Law Firm was paid by Ms. Anthony or be absorbed by the individual attorney.
Any way we look at it, the mere fact that Casey will be in the courtroom almost demands that some semblance of verbal chicken poop will be flying into the fan come next Friday afternoon. I’m looking forward to it, so I must admit, I will not quit. I will attend, as I intend.
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Reader Comments (123)
Hey... no problem, Nika1, that's what I'm here for.
Oh, that's funny about Ali-Rose. Yes, she was quite the watchdog when I walked in your house, too. What a lover, but you know something? That means she's very happy where she is and who she's with. You. That says a lot.
Kara - My pleasure. I will do some research on what I learned today. Then, I will write about it.
Hi, dadgum! I hope all is well with you. I've been wondering.
You're right. This case has it all. And then some, but I wasn't aware Ms. Finnell was involved in Las Vegas. I'll have to look into it.
If Casey is convicted, she won't be able to profit off her deceased daughter. The rest of the family, yes, and that includes defense attorneys, prosecutors and everyone else involved in the case. Trust me, they will write books.
Great to see you, as always, and thanks for acknowledging my work. That's very meaningful.
Hi, Carol - WI... I thought it would be a most appropriate photo to enhance, given the amount of discussion that's been attached to some sort of headless chicken blog, although that headless chicken (in real life) is not the same headless chicken I targeted on my post.
I will Address the phone calls once I have a chance to cite case law. There's a delicate balance between what I know and what I can say about it, but once actual law is applied, it will become clearer. However, I do agree that Beaz won't want any live interaction between Casey and her mother.
Thanks for enjoying the new post.
Thanks, Kara. I'm right on top of it. Trust me.
Hi again Dave-
(This topic and the comments intrigued me....Please excuse me if I wear out my welcome)
If you could clarify your comment regarding Mort Smith and Jury tampering, I'd appreciate it. It's kryptonite to my brain.
If a jury hasn't been selected/seated, how can what he has done be construed as "jury tampering"?
Thanx, kindest regards
Hi, Kara - Don't worry about wearing out your welcome here. It's tough to do. Actually, if you ask me for a membership, all it will get you is a free ticket out of moderation. It's just a matter of convenience on your part because if I'm not available, there you sit until I come back, see it, and let you out. You won't have to sit in moderation at all.
Actually, it has nothing to do with jury tampering. The first part of the article mentioned WITNESS tampering. Big difference. I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear enough.
Don't ever be afraid to ask anything. Nothing is a wrong question.
Correction~~upthread, by mistake, I put Judge Strickland instead of Judge Perry.
Dave, when Jerry Lyons came to your home and taped your conversation with him, did you ever have a copy of the audio tape to make sure it was not editted or doctored in any way?
Judge Strickland declared Casey indigent back in March on a specific date. Any expenses that were incurred by the PI's, experts, attorneys etc prior to that date would be paid by the Baez Law Firm and out of Casey's account with them. Baez was supposed to have expensed out over $275,000 and depleted all the funds on hand.
Now my question is, does JAC take into consideration the hours already spent on this case before they took over paying. Do they not have set standards on how many hours can be spent for a mitigating specalist, for instance, per defendant? Let's assume that a standard death penalty case would consume 200 hrs for a mitigating specalist and Barret worked 100 hrs and was paid by
Baez. Shouldn't JAC just be picking up the slack and paying for the remaining 100 hrs worked, after the date that Casey was declared indigent?
Here we go again. Jane Doe has no funds, is charged with murder one and is declared indigent. JAC says she is entitled to $100,000 for attorneys, experts etc. Casey Anthony become indigent six months after being charged with murder one and the check/fraud. She has already paid out $200,000 ( I deducted $75,000 for the check/fraud). Why should she be entitled to another $100,000, the same as Jane Doe?
For anyone who cannot understand my mumbo jumbo, just ignore my comments. I am looking at this from an accountant's point of view. It just seems to me that Casey is getting more than her fair share while Jane Doe is just receiving the basics set out by JAC.
You know, Snoopy. I did not receive a copy of the tape and I don't know if the defense is obliged to give me a copy or not. That means, given Lyons's track record, he could very well have altered the transcript. Oh well, it's over and done with and Judge Strickland is off the case. I wouldn't mind investigating it, though. Or having LE do it, but it would be another expense the state cannot afford.
About the JAC. I don't know if they follow guidelines, but each case varies tremendously, so nothing could ever be set in stone. By that, I'm not talking about how much they pay per hour for experts, but how many hours could be billed. If a mitigation specialist doesn't have to travel outside of the state, it should be considerably less than someone having to travel to Paris or Cleveland. Of course, that would change the amount of billable hours on top of other expenses that could be considered. I really don't think there are straight answers because of so many variables. As for Casey getting more than Jane Doe, I don't know how much went into "Jane's" case. No one ever heard of her. Therefore, no one ever cared how much the state spent. Casey, on the other hand...
She's a media sensation!
I'll be back. I've got to go to the auto parts store and buy a vacuum hose.
Thank you Dave.
My nephew is a twice convicted felon (2nd degree attempted murder, gang activities) He had a bench trial. Serving time in Illinois at Shawnee. (Go figure Kal-El, and Kara Zor-El in the family, and we have our own Little Lex Luther type....) (it's a joke google Kara Zor-El)
I see a huge difference between what this defense is doing and what his defense did. His defense said plead it out, your gonna serve time, but it's the best thing you can do for yourself. The Cook County DA was going for the max if he didn't plead. ( personally I think he should have been put away forever.I mean come on, you drive by shoot one person, and then when you're out on bail, you stab another????)
I'm not sure if she might not use her gimme appeal as ineffective counsel.
Have you ever thought of doing a post regarding bench trials vs jury trials in Judge Perry's court, or even orange county?
We all saw the out come of her financial crimes bench trial. Pretty lenient. But that was with Judge Strickland.
Does Florida offer a bench trial if a defendant pleads out?
(Honestly, I don't see a jury EVER hearing this case. It will be a last minute plea, just like the financial crimes)
I'd like to become a member, do you see my email, or do I have to email you?
Welcome Kara Zor-El! I am sure that you will enjoy all the posts that Dave does for us. He goes to the hearings and gives us a view from someone being in the court room. It is nice to see a new person joining us.
I have your e-mail, Kara Zor-El. No one else can see it but me. You will get an e-mail from Squarespace with a login name and a password. You can change it to whatever you want once you're logged in. The login is in the upper left corner, below the main banner and under Navigation. If you log in and wander away, it will automatically log you off after a time of being idle, so try to remember to log in each time. This will keep you out of comment moderation and if you add $1.29, you can get a cup of joe at McDonald's. Look for your e-mail soon.
Gee, I'm sorry you have a bad egg in your family. I guess he must be Ova-El on Krypton. Let's hope he comes out a new man, for his sake and yours, including his entire family. I'm sure parole will keep him honest for awhile, but if he needs any help along the way, let me know. I'm spending Thanksgiving in the St. Louis area, across the river in Ill.
Some people are convinced Casey will make a plea, but I do not think so. The prosecution will not offer one and the judge may not accept a bench plea. Even so, she still faces death and I don't think anyone working for the state is going to accept anything less. Not unless a jury comes back and recommends life without parole. Even then, the final decision rests in the judge's hands. One thing is clear, she is adamant about her innocence and her team of lawyers are willing to take it the distance. Nope, in my opinion, there will never be a plea, but I've been known to be wrong. From what we all know about this case so far, it is full of surprises.
Welcome to all the new commenters here! Sit back and make yourself comfortable and enjoy reading. We look forward to reading your comments.
Oh MY!
I appreciate your candor in calling him a bad egg.
That was kind.
BUT any one who attempts to take a life, or does take a life should be vilified, and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
At 19 serving 14 years... not enough. In my opinion.
The "family" attorneys representing him, for his sake tell him take ANY course you can to reduce your time served.
I asked Hornsby about that same issue, he said, he had NO idea what was offered to inmates, and never said any thing. that would even indicate that. He said he doesn't comment to his clients on that. )I was banned from websleuthes for probing that
I guess I'm angry because my son has an ASE certificat as a mechanic, but as a felon the state will pay for one. My son had to pay for all his own certifications. Why does the government help an felon, but hinder the honest man?
Thank you Mary Jo!!!!!
he he-
get this, he isn't a blood relative... he was adopted... it has to make a case for nuture or nature...
Oh my gosh... would my family make a case study or what!
(ps I have 27 chickens... and one of them look like daves post...mine are pasture chickies, thank you)
I think the government does that for the downtrodden, Kara Zor-El. Your nephew is going to need a trade when he gets out in order to survive. Your son is self-sustained. Your nephew relies on the state for everything. Your son isn't hindered if you really think about it. He's independent and he can choose what career path to take. Your nephew can, too, but only with the state's help.
I don't know how the system works in Florida, let alone Illinois, but everyone wants and expects a convict to come out a changed person. That person needs all the help he/she can get in order to acclimate into the public. We already have. I hope 14 years (or less depending on good behavior) takes the violence out of him. Even so, it's very hard for a felon to get a job. There's that awful onus hanging over them for a long, long time.
By the way, you should have gotten an e-mail from Squarespace.
Dave~~I still expect a plea very close to the commencement of the trial. She may even plead while the jury is out deliberating. It is in Casey's best interest to plea deal. It seems to be in the interest of the defense to hold out until the bitter end. The mitiigating Attorney will have to feel quite confident that she can present enough mitigating circumstances to deter the DP, otherwise, I honestly think that the defense will plea bargain to save Casey from the lethal injection.
Baez and/or Mason has an obligation to spell it out to Casey. This trial is going to go before a jury who believe in the death penalty When they see pictures of a tiny skull with duct tape covering the nose and mouth area and still attached to the hair on both sides, it is going to weigh heavily on them. They get to see all the tiny bones that were gathered along with other evidence items. When they view the dumping area where Caylee's remains were thrown out to land amongst garbage, it will paint a picture that qualifies for the lethal injection.
The defense best stop their damn foolishness and face the reality that their client is guilty and do their utmost to save her from the DP. This is where Finnell has her work cut out for her. As far as the expert who is to try and tear down Dr G's findings, dead is dead. Caylee didn't commit suicide so what is this expert suppose to disprove, the homicide by unknown means? If your child dies accidently, you don't let her little body rot for a bit and then bag her up and throw her in the dump and whoop it up for the next month. I know this sounds crude but this case has turned into a three ring circus. The more I learn about it, the more ludicrous it gets.
One day, Kara, I'll have to tell you about my pet chicken, Fred. He had polio. When I was young, we lived on a farm. It sure was an innocent time. No Internet, no trolls, just country cooking and well water I drank straight from the pump. The well was hundreds of years old.
Snoopy - I do not look at Casey's guilt as a foregone conclusion. OJ should have thrown himself at the mercy of the court, too. Casey's defense does not look at her as guilty. The decision remains in Casey's hands and she proclaims her innocence. I see no rational way of thinking that would explain pleading while the jury is deliberating during the guilt phase. What's to stop the judge from sentencing her to death anyway? Where's any kind of incentive? Who's to say the judge would accept such a plea? Do you know at that point how much it will have cost the state of Florida? Why take a trial to the very end, only to take a great risk within minutes of a verdict? What would it prove? That's why there's no reason for it in my mind. Now, if she decides to throw herself at the mercy of the court during the penalty phase, well, that doesn't make any sense, either. Remember, the judge who will ultimately sentence her would never have a chance to listen to the jury's recommendation and why they went that route.
I firmly believe she has a lot of qualified attorneys on her team that actually believe they will get her off. Why go through all this work to simply throw it all away?
Knechel~~ by pleading guilty while the jury is out deliberating the guilt phase, she has a good chance of saving herself from the DP. This would eliminate the penalty phase and she would be throwing herself at the mercy of Judge Perry. OMG, just typing that gave me the shivers. Judge Perry says quite often, "this is a death penalty case." Just ask Nika1, she knows all about it.
How do you know Fred had polio? Did you do a spinal tap on the poor chicken? My pet chicken was Henry, a hen, but her name was still Henry. She died of old age and I have a pic of Henry and me. I was 4 yrs olds. I drank spring water out of a spring and played with frogs. Does that make me a celebrity too? LOL
Celebrity? Huh?
For the sake of any other debilitating disease, polio works for me. Fred had deformed legs and never reached a normal size for a rooster. He never crowed, either. He was a poor, sick, chicken and my love and attention kept him alive. And food. He ate like a king.
Well, you can believe she'll plea. I will continue to say she won't. That's the state we will leave it in. Just remember, it's Casey's call to make, not her attorneys. They can ONLY advise her.
Knechel~~re a plea bargain. It will be a wait and see. The defense has no problem spending the states money and look at all the free publicity they are getting. Advertising can be expensive. Maybe they look at trying to get her off as a challenge. I know Mason is looking for any little loop hole that would cause a mistrial. There will be alot of cashing in even after the trial for some of these prosecutors and possibly lawyers, if Casey signs a waiver and voids the attorney client privilege. Lawyers and money are not strangers!
I will be quiet now... except...
Oh, I see that you treated Fred quite decently for a kid. Too bad it hasn't carried on into your adulthood with us old hens. Cockee doodle doo... BTW, every time I come in here, I could swear that chicken is becoming bluer. You should put a sweater on the poor thing.
Now I am really gone...
If by chance she would want to plea, that doesn't mean the State has to accept it. I don't think the State will accept a plea from her. They know they have a very good case for the DP. With Casey being a Sociopath she will take this trial the whole way. She thinks she is going to be found not guilty and she will get to live the rest of her life on the outside. She only thinks of herself and doesn't care about anything else. That is why Caylee is where she is right now.
Snoopy - I gave the chicken the afternoon off.
Remember, Mary Jo? Cheney Mason is going to walk out of the courthouse arm-in-arm with Casey. That doesn't sound like a plea to me.
Here's a scenario~~~
During the trial, Casey jumps to her feet and says, "I am guilty, I murdered Caylee."
Judge Perry~"Mr Baez, please control your client."
Mr Baez~ "Casey, sit down and shut up."
Cindy~"Your're lying she is still alive in Porto Rico."
Ashton and Burdick in unison~ "She is speaking the truth."
Dave~~"I refuse to apologize to Snoopy."
The court cannot accept her confession. Now Dave, tell me why the court cannot accept it. In other words, what has to happen next?
Casey would be led out of the courtroom and taken to a psychiatric hospital for observation.
Hey Dave I have a quick question do you know if the balcony will be open at the hearing next Friday? I went to the last one and tried to sit up there but the guards said they don't open it unless they need it for seating. TIA
Knechel~~wrong. Anyone else feel free to jump in here.
Tony - Any time a hearing/trial is held in Courtroom 23, the balcony is open. There may be circumstances that keep the doors closed, and if anyone attempts to go up there, there's no way no one would hear the doors. At the last hearing no one was up there.
Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive... Another very informative article,Dave. God bless you for keeping it real,.Isat down with every intention of just glancing over the article, because my laptop froze up tuesday and i have spent every spare moment rebooting and getting every thing back to normal, I am so tired from it that I told myself I would just glance at it and and reread tomorrow. Dave you are such a good writer that, of course I had to read every word and all the comments were so good that I just could't stop reading.Thank you so much. I caught the sentencing of the case Judge Perry was presiding over on In Session, he did not mince his words or let the 20 yearold off because of his young age. He looked him straight in the eye and sentenced him 38 years, followed by 5 years probation. This guy got that sentence for killing a stranger. I would not like to be Casey when she is sentenced for killing her own small helpless child.Thanks again for keeping us informed. Good Night everyone, happy dreams.
Hi, Margaret... I'm telling you, Judge Perry is no slouch in the sentencing department. If Casey's defense thinks they got the better end of the bargain over Judge Strickland's recusal, they are sorely mistaken. Tsk, tsk.
I thank you for enjoying the post and comments. That's what I'm here for. Actually, that's what WE'RE here for.
Thanks for that info Dave. I am positive I was told it was closed though.
IMO Judge Perry will keep this on time as scheduled. He seems to be a no non-sense Judge. Snoopy, I do not think Casey will plea. I figure if she wanted to plea or work out anything it would have been at Universal instead she kept on lying. Casey probably thinks the jury will be made up of 12 fools like her parents that will not hold her accountable.
Hi Dave,
Another informative article and I love your style of writing. I think you need to write a book when this trial is over, I would definately buy it. You have dedicated so much time and energy to this case. you call it as you see it, & you explain the legal aspects better than many lawyers I know. You have been our eyes and ears in the court room. You go above and beyond what other journalist do, you converse and answer questions posted by your readers. I don't post often but I look everyday to see if you've posted anything new. When I do post, you always respond. I've enjoyed all your articles, not just the ones concerning this case.
I didn't get to respond back yesterday, but I wanted to thank you for responding to my post. It's amazing how we all share connections whether it's by location, experiences, or common interests. Concerning your brother & his military service, I grew up a military brat so I deeply appreciate the sacrifices our servicemen & women make. Keep you the great writing, and I'll keep reading.
Sorry I was asleep when you came in last night, Kimpossible. I am carefully weighing the option of writing a book, but it takes a lot of work and structured organization. A lot of people have encouraged me, so I may just do it.
I enjoy being the eyes and ears of many. I can do that thanks to the misfortune of living in the Orlando area. By misfortune, I mean it's a shame that Caylee died at all, let alone here. I just happen to be a writer and can go to the hearings to convey what I witness. I hope, with all my hart, I can continue doing this. I know the good far outweighs the bad, and I really enjoy doing it.
Thank you for your support and kind words. They mean a lot to me, and if you keep reading, I'll keep writing.
There's a rooster now living at the farm behind us- haven't seen him yet, but I'm betting he looks a bit like this one- he has the most bizarre strangled sounding crow I've ever heard. Their former rooster had a well-developed hardy cry, really carried. Kept going for hours. Hubby and I just sit on the deck with our coffees and have a good laugh at this one. I imagine the egg production has dropped off considerably...
Believe it or not, Karen, living in a suburban area has not kept us free of roosters, although he may have made a dinner plate since I haven't heard him in awhile. I kind of enjoyed hearing him at the crack of dawn, having grown up in a farm setting for many of my youthful years.
Maybe, your boy isn't quite a full-grown rooster yet. And keep this in mind... not all lovers are good singers.
Ah, Yes, it's Friday- have a productive and interesting time at the hearing today Dave. Looking forward to reading what comes forth. If I were down there I wouldn't miss 'em.
Actually, Karen, the hearing is next Friday, but I will do my best to be as productive as possible. I'm researching for another post.
Well, Drat! I'm trying to hurry the month along and here I haven't even gotten the Halloween gahunka down from the attic yet.
Halloween is a somber time for me. Alas, all I can do is stare at the bowl of Snickers and KitKat bars and wish for a healthier time in my life. How sad.
Just kidding. I will make room for a snack on Halloween day.
Good afternoon Dave. Oh a book would be great. You are close to everything, you have contacts that are somehow mixed into the case. I would buy a copy.
I would like to get your opinion on what Cindy and George will do on the stand. Will they be honest to a fault or will they stretch the truth?
Tony - I'll be back. I need to run out for about an hour, but the prosecution will force the Anthonys to be honest by refreshing their memories with transcripts from LE interviews and depositions. Same thing with Lee.
I'll talk about a book at a later time.
Tony, welcome to Dave's blog.
Dave, is October 31st the date that the Judge set to have all the depositions done? I wonder if the defense was able to get theirs all done and if the prosecution was given a final list so they know who to depose?
Dave~~with your talent for writing , a book must be a priority on your list of to dos. I am really looking forward to the hearing on Friday. You will be our ears and eyes as per usual. It is an honor to have you as our personal reporter.
I am anxious to see how Ann Finnell performs in the courtroom. I doubt if she uses the same approach as Andrea Lyon. For some reason, I expect Finnell to be rather demure.
How are we going to find out when Laura Buchanan will be deposed? I realize she hails from Kentucky but as the crow flies, it is not like she is half way across the world.
I think that headless chicken is starting to decompose. There is a full moon tonight.
Hay Snoopy What that poor naked chicken needs is a boa, a Feather Boa hee hee hee hee
Imagine what a strange Halloween this one will be for Casey- if only...
Caylee would be, what, 4? Just when they are really fun, and all enthusiastic about the whole adventure...
Dang, she'd be 5! Time has flown... rough time for the grandparents.